A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[R2elk]

So they are calling that Regal Blue Red Bronze? I was trying to think how to say it, and I came up with Blue Red Blackwing Bronze. Sounds like a bruise! Black and blue and red all over.

Regal instead of blackwing is a lot easier.

The reason it is called Regal Blue Red Bronze is because it is derived from a Regal Red (b1b1 rr) rather than a Bourbon Red (bb rr).

 

[Finnie]

The reason it is called Regal Blue Red Bronze is because it is derived from a Regal Red (b1b1 rr) rather than a Bourbon Red (bb rr).

Ah, thank you. I clicked on your Regal Red link. Of course I have read all of Porter's color pages before, but not with the b1 genetics in mind specifically. I think I should go through all of the different ones that are homozygous for b1 and see what is different about them then regular b birds. On FB, some of those breeders seem to be able to pick out differences between some things that are just split to a gene, like the pn. It makes me think that some of these genes are actually incompletely dominant, rather than recessive. For a recessive, you shouldn't be able to tell the bird is carrying it.

 

[memphis]

I find Porters site highly addictive. I thought ressesive genes could be expressed.

 

[R2elk]

Ah, thank you. I clicked on your Regal Red link. Of course I have read all of Porter's color pages before, but not with the b1 genetics in mind specifically. I think I should go through all of the different ones that are homozygous for b1 and see what is different about them then regular b birds. On FB, some of those breeders seem to be able to pick out differences between some things that are just split to a gene, like the pn. It makes me think that some of these genes are actually incompletely dominant, rather than recessive. For a recessive, you shouldn't be able to tell the bird is carrying it.

The pn gene is not completely recessive and a person knowing what they are looking for should be able to spot its effects. One of the first things stated is that not all recessive color genes are completely recessive. There are also the 2 sex related genes brown (e) and Narragansett (n) that hens can only ever have one copy since it is only attached to the male chromosome.

From what I have noticed it is possible to visually tell that a Bourbon Red is carrying a Black Winged Bronze color gene. In my opinion a very high percentage of the Bourbon Red hatching eggs being sold on eBay come from turkeys that are not pure Bourbon Reds but ones carrying the Black Winged Bronze color gene.

If you breed a pair of Harvest Gold together, you have a 6.25% chance of getting a Sweetgrass. A Harvest Gold mating can produce lots of different color varieties such as Black Winged Bronze, Cornish Palm, Regal Red, Light Red, Sweetgrass, Red Sweetgrass, Fall Fire and of course more Harvest Gold.

Good luck.

 

[JRNash]

Speaking of legbars....why can't both comb styles be acceptable? Maybe comb size is not as important as the crest size. With my breed of dog our standard says that height is between 18-23 inches, but "quality" not to be sacrificed for size, meaning size isn't as important as other things.

Ahem...size matters..

 

[JRNash]

that is my next wife......I love her bank account and voice when singing,,,her speaking voice is not so good,,,,,

btw my current wife is fighting to keep me...however her bank accounts are about 350 million short right now....

Does she have a sister with lowwww self esteem.....

 

[R2elk]

I find Porters site highly addictive. I thought recessive genes could be expressed.

Homozygous recessive color genes do express their color traits. There are some cases of heterozygous recessive color genes that can be expressed such as the penciled (pn) color gene which is expressed as partial penciling when it is present as (Pnpn).

Other cases where there is a combination of different recessive color genes can allow a different than expected result such as the bronze color gene paired with the black winged bronze color gene (bb1). If either was paired with the dominant black color gene, their effect may be completely hidden (Bb or Bb1).

 

[duluthralphie]

Her sister is short dumpy and poor...just right for you I think.....

 

[JRNash]

I've been outside working on my pens today. The BB's have decided that its acceptable to come into the shop and let me know their food bowl needs topping up. The table saw,nail guns ect don't bother them a bit. And they will not leave until I feed them. My son thought it was cool. He said they all jumped up at one time,ran across the yard and in to where I was at. 14 poults with 25 ducks right behind them. And since I've got everyone running loose they come to investigate,so add another 20 turkeys and 250 plus chickens!! I have to stand guard until they've had their fill. They average 5 times a day fetching me.lol

 

[JRNash]

Her sister is short dumpy and poor...just right for you I think.....

Short legs can't run as fast!!