Aggrevated... Welfare Garbage.

[PurpleChicken]

This can be such a touchy subject.

Jenn, I can't think of many people who haven't needed a helping hand
at some point in their lives. Once he finds a job he won't need the help
any longer.

There are so many variations on this theme. Take the single mom for
example. Was she married with kids and her hubbie took off or died
or was she a single teen who had multiple children due to irresponsible
sex? Now any reasonable person has to say "what difference does it
make? Don't we still need to make sure the children eat?". It's a
catch22. We must take care of all the children. That is the only real
truth I can see. We can argue later on how we do that.

Now for the real politics. Our government, one party imparticular, has
created a welfare state in this country in order to buy votes. I hope no
one here is so naive that they think they are doing this out of the
goodness of their hearts. 80% of welfare is to control masses.

Why do you people think so many of us conservatives are terrified of
national healthcare? We look at our current welfare system for one.

I'm an Christian Independent Conservative American therefore helping
people less fortunate than I should be my own personal mandate and in
many ways it is. How do we help when we can barely pay our own
bills and taxes are so high because our government has exploded?

There was a time in this country when private organizations, mostly
churches, cared for the poor. They weren't given a free ride but the
help they needed. It wasn't perfect but it's a lot better than what we
have now.

The variables on this are endless. What about the mentally ill who live on
our streets?

The things about the welfare system I know that give me comfort are
1-I know some of the people truly need and a just society must help them.
2-The people who work the system are mostly miserable thieves. If
they want to live that life than so be it.
3-The entire budget for state and national welfare is only a few percentage
points of the fed and state budgets. From a relativists perspective it's
small.


I went easy here. No one start a fight.

 

[Wifezilla]

The sad fact seems to be that the system does not work for those who need it, while at the same time it is open to abuse by those that exploit it.

You got it!

I know a woman who is autistic and has other serious mental issues. For years she couldn't wade through the paperwork to get assistance. Finally, with help from friends, she was able to get an evaluation, though the whole thing seemed to be set up to keep her from getting anywhere. Just recently she was able to get some training and now works from home doing call center work.​

 

[RickiHupp]

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Very VERY well said...I agree

 

[key west chick]

I've been it this situation. When DH lost his job many years ago, we could hardly afford to feed ourselves, much less health insurance. We even had 2 renters in our house to help make house payments. We applied for and received gov provided health care, but just for our kids. DH and I took a chance without it but with kids, especially a boy, we felt they needed it. We felt like we have put our share of money into the system and we deserved some help. As soon as we could afford it, we got our own insurance and took the kids off.

 

[Lmarie]

I think they should make welfare like social security, (hold the eye rolls)

as long as you put in, you will get some out. If you work most of you life, you should be allowed some help when you fall down and need it. But for those who choose not to work and collect because it's much easier... it' survival of the fittest. Get a job. Try harder.
(wow I sound mean..)
Lauren

 

[AK_Button_Mama]

I was going to say soemthing on this subject but it just angers me!!!! I cant even type right now!~

I am just going to go out and pet my girls! bring down the ole BP

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

All I have to say is unless you have walked in the shoes of the people who have recieved welfare, don't pass judgement.

 

[RockyToggRanch]

My opinion...

Real people USE the system. (That's what it's there for.)
Scumbags ABUSE the system. That's what we're all t'd off about.

I'm in retail and know exactly what you mean when you say you're frustrated seeing the things that these people buy (that taxpayers are paying for).
Perhaps their monthly foodstamps would be plenty if they were eating like THEY were paying for it.

I'm all for supporting those in need.

1. Remember this is a family board; no swearing / foul language

This includes using punctuation marks in place of swear words. Thank you for understanding. ~Lisa~

 

[SterlingAcres]

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Amen. That's not mean, that's reality. My inlaws are living in lala land. These are the same people that went to Toys For Tots for christmas for their kids to get 3-4 gifts a piece for them.... while they went out and bought themselves a new digital camera and a new computer.

 

[redhen]

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