i live out in the middle of nowhere. of course, there are 18 of us here at the monastery.........we also have a 'non-watchdog' golden retriever who likes to roam around and pee and poop. also have two cats that do the same--IF they are awake, that is... i have always locked our birds up real tight at night so nothing can get them. even use buckets loaded with rocks in front of locked doors to coops. only thing that could get into our huge cage, where most of the ducks live (we don't have chooks) is a black bear. WE'VE NEVER LOST ANY BIRD OR EVER AN ATTACK. True, daytime predation or attacks could be a different story. Our perimeter fence could be surmounted. But then again, our dog and cats are about, and there are usually people around (like me) doing something out there: chainsawing, carpentry in the woodshop, or the backhoe roaring away, etc........... But I refuse to believe that you sensible people are being remiss about protecting your birds by night so as to lose them to predators. Am I just lucky? I know some day we'll get an attack by day. But at night................I just don't see it. maybe i can get some pics of our setup from the nw. you can see stacks of heavy buckets against the door inside the mootel. in there is the 10 x 16 cage our ducks live and lay in........ three drakes live in a smaller coop. from the east here is one from inside the compound. from the south side of the mootel and cage.