Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[DonumDei]

This is wrong. Blue is a dilution of black and is not sex linked. If it was you couldn't have splash hens. 

The base color is sex linked.

 

[City Chicks 13]

Would this rooster be worth looking at as a breeding rooster? https://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/4921802307.html

 

[csr326]

I am not a genetics expert, and still learning, so bear with me O.K.??? I think there is a lot of wrong information here.....blue and black, splash are their own variety true, but that has nothing to do with the base color of the bird. A blue bird is genetically the same as a black with the dilute gene added....a splash having a double dose...blue or black has nothing to do with the base color...a blue bird can be gold or silver based, same for a black bird....so what we are talking about here is should you cross gold based birds with silver based birds?....not black and blue...the current thinking by SOME of the top breeders is to breed silver based blue to silver based blue, and gold based black to gold based black. All of the best breeders are not on board with this thinking...
as for the flaws popping up and ruining the bird? The only flaw I can think of is leakage.......conformation of the bird is not changed by color.....
I'm going to have to go back and check, but I'm not so sure we are talking about sex linked gold and silver either....

tigercreek you are correct, I should have been more specific.

I should have stated this was more of an opinion than fact. I believe from conversations I've had with other breeders, is that the best blues are silver based and best blacks are gold based. I have read these statements from two founding members of the breed. And to me it makes sense from a genetic point of view.

And yes the only flaw is leakage not conformation, I noticed that a lot of leakage is coming from BBS breeding from all over. I suspect that crossing the incorrect base colors MIGHT be the problem. Again this is my personal opinion.

But I do stand by what I said about using the daughters who are the same color as their sire. Since they will completely inherit the base color gene from their sire and not dam.

 

[tigercreek]

But I do stand by what I said about using the daughters who are the same color as their sire. Since they will completely inherit the base color gene from their sire and not dam.

This is the only thing I have an issue with.....whether the bird is blue or black has nothing to do with the base color....if you change this to read same base color, and change your example to read base gold color and base silver instead of black and blue, then we are on the same page...I have read and posted the link by the founding breeders before it was removed and from the site and agree with it...best blues from base silver, best blacks from base gold... but I don't think that the base colors gold and silvers are the same gene as the sex linked gold and silver....still working on understanding that...

 

[jerryse]

Would this rooster be worth looking at as a breeding rooster? https://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/4921802307.html

It is hard to tell much from the picture . I would say yes .

 

[rainbowchick]

Would this rooster be worth looking at as a breeding rooster?  https://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/4921802307.html 

Funny you should ask..... I posted it.
I got him from a reputable breeder as an extra roo with the two trios I bought. His color is much prettier and more uniform in person. However, his comb flops a little to one side, and his legs are a little closely set together. Seeing as he didn't make the cut for the original breeder's program, or mine, I think he's better suited as a fancy "flock guardian"... Although, someone more experienced may be able to explain whether or not the comb and legs are serious problems...

 

[rainbowchick]

Jerry- thoughts on my concerns?

 

[jerryse]

Jerry- thoughts on my concerns?

The comb and leg set can be corrected with good hens . I have over the years bought culls from good breeders . They are often better than another breeders best . If he is paired with good black hens for starting a flock he is workable . Ralph Sturgeon wrote a book called Start Where You Are With What You Have . Very good practical advice even today . Always use the best you have or can afford . Availability is also a factor .

 

[rainbowchick]

I will say, he has lovely dark legs. I was tempted to keep him for that one trait alone...

 

[rainbowchick]

I wonder if that means he's a birchen based lavender? Don't birchens have darker legs?