American serama thread!

[froggiesheins]

Thanks for the opinions, they are right at 7 months. I don't show, so they don't strike the pose on command. These were just normal candid shots.

I see that both their backs are too long, had not had the squirrel tail pointed out, so I really appreciate that.

I have some almost 4 weeks old, and I think 3 males, so I've got some decisions to make on who to keep.

Thanks again!

A SQ serama SHOULD stand like this 24/7 SO you #1 roo is a good one There is no "teaching" them to pose, they either have it or they don't. The ONLY thing U can teach is for them to stand on a small circular table and strut around.and not fly off that table.
If you are serious about improving what you have purchase the BEST QUALITY hen you can and breed to #1. This is where you WILL be spending a few dollars to get a good breeder hen. AND ONLY get one from a known breeder. Again I say no EBay CL etc....

 

[WVduckchick]

A SQ serama SHOULD stand like this 24/7 SO you #1 roo is a good one

There is no "teaching" them to pose, they either have it or they don't. The ONLY thing U can teach is for them to stand on a small circular table and strut around.and not fly off that table.
If you are serious about improving what you have purchase the BEST QUALITY hen you can and breed to #1. This is where you WILL be spending a few dollars to get a good breeder hen. AND ONLY get one from a known breeder. Again I say no EBay CL etc....

That is exactly a question I have been looking for an answer to... (but didn't want to ask

) -- whether they stand like that all the time or not! So thank you.

My current grown ones (I have those 2 boys, plus 6 girls) came from a member here, last spring. I just hatched some 4 weeks ago that I won from a contest here, from MPC. We'll have to wait and see how they turn out, but I can already tell that I have a couple of boys. (plus one booted boy, and one silkied boy)

My broody (hatched in my first set) hatched half of the chicks, and I hatched some in the incubator. Some were eggs from her (and either of my cockerels), the others were from MPC. She is currently caring for 6 of them outside, I have the others inside.

 

[froggiesheins]

That is exactly a question I have been looking for an answer to... (but didn't want to ask ) -- whether they stand like that all the time or not! So thank you. My current grown ones (I have those 2 boys, plus 6 girls) came from a member here, last spring. I just hatched some 4 weeks ago that I won from a contest here, from MPC. We'll have to wait and see how they turn out, but I can already tell that I have a couple of boys. (plus one booted boy, and one silkied boy) My broody (hatched in my first set) hatched half of the chicks, and I hatched some in the incubator. Some were eggs from her (and either of my cockerels), the others were from MPC. She is currently caring for 6 of them outside, I have the others inside.

ADORABLE!!!! I can tell U that the little pipsqueak in the front is gonna be a contender...Look at him strut ALREADY! Go to the SCNA website and look at what is Show Quality, see what the SOP is for seramas for TT showing SO MUCH info out there in cyberland This is the breeder list from SCNA, these are peoples that you CAN safely contact. They DO HAVE for real seramas AND they show. http://www.scnaonline.org/breeder-directory.html Here is the standards for TableTop judging... http://www.scnaonline.org/standards-and-judging.html You will also note there is NO MENTION WHATSOEVER about class A B & C. For the life on me I cannot figure out how that nonsense got started. Yes there are weights mentioned and if there is a question about weight a bird will get weighed. WHAT IS A SHOW QUALITY SERAMA SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE???? this. http://www.ocseramas.com/currently-available.html http://www.ocseramas.com/ IS THE TOP breeder on the WEST COAST. No one except Jerry Schex can touch her birds in consistant quality. These people are the ones that ; A. used to be on this site but have moved out of here when the wanna-bes started making noise. Here is an example: This bird was advertised as a 100% pure serama

When I questioned this person she gave me all sorts of double talk. I showed her this picture in rebuttal as to how a serama should look...(I tried to find a similair colored bird for comparison)

Seee what I mean? I could yak all day about this subject, so will stop for now and let you digest this info for now... Here are my two EXTRA-SPECIALs PEENUT&Princess, they sleep next to me every night and they hang out on my PC desk every night for quality time. (p.s. Lula the 3rd sweetie is no longer with us

 

[WVduckchick]

I can feel how much you love it @froggiesheins ! Thank you. I'll be doing more homework.

And I'll get some new pics of the little critters too.

 

[nchls school]

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This is one of my Tribble pullets (silkied serama). With our first cold snap it became obvious that silkied feathering does not hold heat well. As the temps dropped we brought Trixie and Dixie into the kitchen to wait out the cold in a 25 gallon tub. Trixie decided this salad bowl made a great nest and continued to lay eggs. Last week she went broody---in a 25 gal. space with a salad bowl nest.



This is one of the chicks from Trixie's first three eggs. A surprise!!!!! Frizzle X silkied produced this. Hard to see in this picture-the chick is a frizzled silkied serama. One of the other two chicks is too. The third is silkied without being frizzle. So, either their frizzle father has a hidden silkied gene or silkied is not recessive. Many of the 14 chicks that hatched are frizzle, silkied, or a combination of both-YEAH!!


Taking pictures sure can be disappointing when they just won't turn out. This is a frazzle pullet. Note the eye-she hatched blind in one eye. Her feathering is soft and pliant, but thin in some spots.



When the little roo in the picture became ill the frazzle pullet started caring for it as its own chick; clucking and making the come get food call. Strange-the pullet is just 4 months old-the roo is 2 months old and is now doing well after being on antibiotics.


I do not have show birds, but I sure do have fun raising them. Each new clutch has a surprise. I have five hens brooding now and several with chicks. The next batch hatches on New Year's Day.

 

[WVduckchick]

Good luck with your hatch nchls!

You make a point that I've been wondering about. Is silkied possible of both parents appear smooth? Can the silkied gene be carried and not show?

I got 2 silkied chicks, and I could have sworn that one was from my own girls egg, but I could be mistaken. It could have been a shipped egg.

 

[nchls school]

Good luck with your hatch nchls!

You make a point that I've been wondering about. Is silkied possible of both parents appear smooth? Can the silkied gene be carried and not show?

I got 2 silkied chicks, and I could have sworn that one was from my own girls egg, but I could be mistaken. It could have been a shipped egg.

If what I read is correct, that silkied is recessive, the answer to your question is YES. All recessive genes can be hidden, not show, unless there are two recessive genes for the same trait-then the trait shows up. My frizzle rooster is one that I raised, a second generation bird, so his having a hidden recessive gene for silkied is quite a surprise.

 

[prizepete]

Roo #1 has a right vertical stance wings are a true vertical, wing length nice yellow / yellow legs / tail is nicely upright but his back is too long, there should not be any air space between tail and back. He has a nice chest but it is alittle too low. He IS a nice representation of the Serama

Roo#2 is alittle more horizontal and has squirrel tail (genetic OOPS caused from japanese bantam) his back too is alittle long.BUT he is a cutie and i would not be ashamed to have him in my basket.

All these opinions are based on Table Top showing .

I do agree with what you are saying, And so far, from the few shows that I have gone to, the leg color does NOT matter in table top. It does in cage, but the SCNA Judges said themselves it does not matter with tabletop. From the two birds that she gave, I think the first one is better quality, BUT that is just an opinion!

 

[froggiesheins]

I do agree with what you are saying, And so far, from the few shows that I have gone to, the leg color does NOT matter in table top. It does in cage, but the SCNA Judges said themselves it does not matter with tabletop. From the two birds that she gave, I think the first one is better quality, BUT that is just an opinion!

You are right about the leg color BUT if there is a tie between two great birds, the yellow legs WILL win.
In cage showing is a whole nother ball game that i do not know much about other than white is the only recognized color by APA. I have heard they are just about ready to get black up and running with APA. Also at poultry shows now you cannot show in cage AND Table top anymore.

Yes Roo #1 is the better of the two boyz.

 

[froggiesheins]

I can feel how much you love it @froggiesheins
!  Thank you.  I'll be doing more homework.  :yiipchick

And I'll get some new pics of the little critters too.

Actually I am INSANELY in love with seramas. I go to all the APA/ABA shows in California with my Mobile Command Center and PEENUT the "un"official ambassador for the serama. I just LOVE talking shop :cd