Another coon goes for a ''ride''

sonoran silkies: my husband got on here and posted that line you copied. (As well as the rest of the posting on this thread under my name, until now). While I disagree with the particulars of the statement "All animals, wild and domestic have a sovereign right to exist regardless of the benefits or threats they may pose to human kind. ..." due to its obvious implications that you also found fault with, let me just say that my husband is a big softie who can't bear the thought of an animal being killed for doing what it's species is supposed to do, i.e. scavange for food.

That being said, I don't think killing all animals who are doing what animals instinctually do, is the necessary answer. I do understand that by relocating said nuisance animals, one is simply putting the problem elsewhere. But what happened to an animals' right to live as well? Yes, most would agree that raccoons are mess-making, chicken killing, disease carrying horrors, but they are still animals. If we didn't encroach onto more and more wild animals' territories, we wouldn't be forcing raccoons, oppossums, bobcats, etc to come to our homes for an easy meal. Many people view chickens as nasty disease carrying creatures only fit for the human dinner table. But we would all shout in anger and find legal recourse if someone came to our home and dispatched our beloved pets for being the aforementioned "nasty creatures". But many folks on this very website have lodged complaints against neighbors for being upset that their chickens are free ranging in the neighbor's back yards or pooping on their sidewalks, or wandering in the road. It all comes down to ownership. If your chickens are really worth so much that you would kill wild animals for even walking by the cage, then take the initiative to better fortify your precious pets' home so that the predators can't infiltrate it. Take ownership of the issue. If a raccoon got into your flimsy run last night (for example) and killed all your chickens, take ownership of the problem, admit that you could have housed your birds better, and fix the problem. I promise you that if you make your coop safe enough, the predator will give up eventually. There is no need for all the senseless killing over an animal that should have been better protected to begin with.
 
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sonoran silkies: my husband got on here and posted that line you copied. (As well as the rest of the posting on this thread under my name, until now). While I disagree with the particulars of the statement "All animals, wild and domestic have a sovereign right to exist regardless of the benefits or threats they may pose to human kind. ..." due to its obvious implications that you also found fault with, let me just say that my husband is a big softie who can't bear the thought of an animal being killed for doing what it's species is supposed to do, i.e. scavange for food.

That being said, I don't think killing all animals who are doing what animals instinctually do, is the necessary answer. I do understand that by relocating said nuisance animals, one is simply putting the problem elsewhere. But what happened to an animals' right to live as well? Yes, most would agree that raccoons are mess-making, chicken killing, disease carrying horrors, but they are still animals. If we didn't encroach onto more and more wild animals' territories, we wouldn't be forcing raccoons, oppossums, bobcats, etc to come to our homes for an easy meal. Many people view chickens as nasty disease carrying creatures only fit for the human dinner table. But we would all shout in anger and find legal recourse if someone came to our home and dispatched our beloved pets for being the aforementioned "nasty creatures". But many folks on this very website have lodged complaints against neighbors for being upset that their chickens are free ranging in the neighbor's back yards or pooping on their sidewalks, or wandering in the road. It all comes down to ownership. If your chickens are really worth so much that you would kill wild animals for even walking by the cage, then take the initiative to better fortify your precious pets' home so that the predators can't infiltrate it. Take ownership of the issue. If a raccoon got into your flimsy run last night (for example) and killed all your chickens, take ownership of the problem, admit that you could have housed your birds better, and fix the problem. I promise you that if you make your coop safe enough, the predator will give up eventually. There is no need for all the senseless killing over an animal that should have been better protected to begin with.

The law here states, you can release them ,on your land were caught or destroy. The number of raccoons are out of control, one reason it doesn't hurt to destroy ones after your birds. Have seen them take legs off of birds thru 1/2 in hardware.

Point is it more cruel to relocate them than to kill them. So for all those that think its cruel to kill them, release them on their home range.

If #s are not control, here is what happens. If say 10A has enought food to feed 100 coons thru winter, those 100 coons will produce 300 more that spring ,so all food is used up , then a big strave off , down to alot more than the first 100. So killing a few off will help keep others from starving to death.​
 
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Just for information sake, our raccoon population around here has nearly been decimated this past summer. Distemper went thru the local population, and killled many many MANY of them. We were picking them off the road and from around the farm where I work by the dozens. Old ones, young ones, babies. How they got it, I dont know; we havent had an outbreak like this since I moved here 10 years ago. In relocating wildlife, you may be plunking them in the middle of sickness and disease. Or if they are sick, infecting an entire population somewhere else.




Sounds like natural "survival of the fittest" to me...if they overpopulate, nature will provide a solution that isn't dependent on your shotgun or travel.


deerman wrote:
The law here states, you can release them ,on your land were caught or destroy. The number of raccoons are out of control, one reason it doesn't hurt to destroy ones after your birds. Have seen them take legs off of birds thru 1/2 in hardware.

About pulling chickens through 1/2 hardware (I assumed you mean 1/2 inch hardware cloth): no offense intended, but if your chickens were truly secure in an enclosed coop at night, the coon would have a hard time pulling legs off your birds.


If I may quote myself:

There is no need for all the senseless killing over an animal that should have been better protected to begin with.
 
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Ewwwwwwwwwww....I have eaten coon and plan to again, in the future...but possum...???
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I just cant get past the fact, that possums dont wash thier food before eating it
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........as coons are known to do
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.....I have seen nasty possums feed on dead carcasses while coons prefer live food.....My dog takes care of all the possums in our yard, which thank goodness we dont see many of.....Anyway...you old coot....LOL!! Loved the visual you posted.....If you have eaten possum, do tell us about how it was....I am morbidly curious....
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