Anybody else Equestrian or Horse-lover?

Love Love Love horses. Unfortunately I don't own one, had two as a teenager, but thats been years. My dream is to get one when my daughter leaves the house, she's 18 and still in school. I'll have to board since I live in the city, but I'm dreaming for the day to come.
 
My daughters 1/2 Welsh pony Charlotte 8yrs old
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Charlotte stealing food from the chickens LOL! (only because I was letting them munch on some grass in the main yard....)
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My Thoroughbred Boyd (off track - total goof ball!) 22 yrs old
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Our elderly Shetland pony Oreo that we had- passed away a few years ago - buried on our property
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here are the boys playing with peter

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we love horses and have 4 and two ponies

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This is me and my Arab/Saddlebred Izzie (AA Apollo Bey x Parkways Society Gal). We do UMECRA competitive trail.

We're here on the Shore-to-Shore Trail near Grayling, MI
 
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Just curious, but what attracts you to competitive trail say over a typical endurance ride? I was considering this as well. To my knowledge the big difference is that in endurance, the first fit horse and it's rider to cross are winners, whereas as in CT there are other factors? What would you say is your favourite thing about it?

I don't show Lilly although I might enter her in some halter classes this spring. But she loves the trail and I was thinking this might be something fun to look into.

Here's a pic of my girl (standing like a dufus)
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Kelly G - Yeah, it looks like we're no longer making the drive up there. ): Curse this snow!!

That Fjord will have to wait another week. *sigh*. I worked with two Fjord brothers for a while as a volunteer at a therapeutic riding centre, was bitten by the bug and been hopelessly in love ever since...
 
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First of all, endurance is a race as you well know. The AERC sanctions ALL endurance rides in USA & Canada. If you do an endurance in Alaska, the rules would be the same as one in Florida. Distances tend to be longer as you know too. Rider may dismount

Competitive Trail is a timed event. All horses and riders are finishing in roughly the same amount of time, points subtracted if you are too early or late. Essentially, the winning horse is "best conditioned". Riders remain mounted entire ride

With competitive trail, there is a national/Canadian organization, however, they do not sanction rides in all states and provinces. There are many sanctioning organizations, each has a slightly different way of scoring. The North American Trail Ride Conference (NATRC) tends to be in the south and west, some in Canada. They have a rather slow pace for competition (usually about 5 mph). Because of their slower pace, they attract many gaited and pony breeds. NATRC also grades you on your campsite and they set up obstacles and grade you and your horse on them.

I am most familiar with Upper Midwest Endurance & Competitive Rides Assoc. rules (UMECRA). Our pace is much faster, 6-8mph, and we do not judge campsites and horsemanship. However, the faster pace and a scoring system that is heavy on p/r's, the competition is in favor of Arabs and Arab crosses and it is difficult for other breeds to be competitive. My horse has a p/r of 8/1 (for 15 sec.) so we do quite well with UMECRA rules which is why I haven't gone over to endurance. I may do a few days of Shore-to-Shore this year endurance just so I can get off and walk. UMECRA sanctions rides in MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, IA, MB and ND

OAATS (Ohio Arabian and All-breed Trail System) follows the Arabian Horse Association's regional and national scoring rules, just applies it to their open competitions and thus they judge metabolics (dehydration, CRT) as well as p/r's.

Other systems ECTRA (Eastern Competitive Trail Ride Assoc.), SEDRA (Southeast Distance Riding Association), MoTDRA (Middle of the Trail Distance Ride Association) and OCTRA (Ontario Competitive Trail Ride Assoc.) are between UMECRA and NATRC in pacing and scoring though I'm not very familiar with them.


I love distance riding, it's trail riding, and you get a coffee mug at the end!!
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In very few other horse sports do you get to gallop along ridges in the Upper Peninsula and swim in rivers and enjoy wonderful scenery all in the same day.

Bantamamba, your mare's got the hind end for it. You'd have to get her in shape though. Izzie, my mare loovvveess it. She gets so bored in the arena, I get her out on the trail and it's like she's 6 yrs old again. I have trouble holding her BACK, lol. Problem is, she's done so much distance that she doesn't understand walking on the trail, especially if we're riding with a big group on unfamiliar trails, she thinks it's competition. My other horse could do both pleasure and distance without bouncing and bolting. Where do you live?

Nearly all distance riders are amateurs. This isn't like showing where you can compete on several horses in one day and therefore make a profit. With the exception of Valerie Kanavy and Darolyn Butler-Dial, NO ONE is professional. Most people just go to a few rides a year and do it because they enjoy trail riding and getting coffee mugs. Most people train their own horses and since you have to condition yourself along with the horse, trainers aren't doing it. In this regard, it's a lot more "grass-roots" than showing.
Why don't you PM me if you want more info?
 
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Just curious, but what attracts you to competitive trail say over a typical endurance ride? I was considering this as well. To my knowledge the big difference is that in endurance, the first fit horse and it's rider to cross are winners, whereas as in CT there are other factors? What would you say is your favourite thing about it?

I don't show Lilly although I might enter her in some halter classes this spring. But she loves the trail and I was thinking this might be something fun to look into.

Here's a pic of my girl (standing like a dufus)
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Kelly G - Yeah, it looks like we're no longer making the drive up there. ): Curse this snow!!

That Fjord will have to wait another week. *sigh*. I worked with two Fjord brothers for a while as a volunteer at a therapeutic riding centre, was bitten by the bug and been hopelessly in love ever since...

Oh, darn! I was looking forward to living vicariously through your purchase! You guys have had a wicked winter! Well, it's a good bet that if you can't get there, no other buyer can get there either!
 
I've ridden for 20 years, owned horses for the last 14 of them .

My horses in order of purchase

Pony Express- 30 yr old POA

Stocking Stuffer- 15 yr old TB

Sinatra- 2 yr old QH - sold to a show barn lesson program
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I showed him in Childrens hunter for a while prior .

Dutch- Dutch WB, purchased him at 4 and trained him for 10 years. Showed him in everything - dressage, eventing, hunters, jumpers, hunterpacing, fox hunted. swam. ect ect. sold to an eventer when I moved- I tried to make him a backyard pet for 2 months before I moved but he HATED it.

Tyler- Anglo Arab, Purchased from the meat man- fattened him up and sold him as a pasture pet to a friend

Tonka- 25 yr old Mustang ( went with tyler)

Jimmy- 8 yo OTT tb , was in retraining to become a hunter after a western pleasure career attempt. Fell in a hole in the 100 acre pasture I boarded at and snapped his femur in 4 places.

Bubba- 6 yr old OTT TB my current pasture pet and possible hunter.

Roxanne - my poor little paint who we just put down 2 nights ago.

i'm almost burnt out on horses. . . but love them too much. maybe i'll get a mini next time for bubbas friend.
 
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Thank you for all the info! I will most definitely shoot a pm your way when I can compile some more questions.

Lilly is a tank, but really light on her feet with nice collected gaits. In that first photo we had only had her around a month so she was still quite portly thanks to her previous owner's ministrations, she is in better shape now...though our exercising has been limited thanks to this monster of a winter. Before the snow hit my mother and I would alternate jogging/walking while the other rode. One of the things that attracts me to endurance/competitive trail is the motivation to go out there and get fit with your horse, lol. I can't wait until Spring so we can begin taking her out on longer rides again. Personally I still have a lot of research to do regarding formulating a safe fitness routine to bring Lilly up to par for distance riding, but she certainly has the heart for it (and the back-end, apparently!). She's like the bloomin' energiser bunny.

Too funny about Izzie! She must really love it. That is so important.

We are in northern Nevada, and are fairly new members of the Nevada All-State Trail Riders. They're pretty cool about working to preserve our trails in this area from development and the like, and I believe they are big into local endurance.

Well awesome! I'm certain we'll run into some more "hard-core" distance riders, but for me (and my mother as well) it's all about getting out there and seeing some truly epic scenery while enjoying the teamwork.

Kelly G - I like the water we're getting but day-umm, it sure interferes with stuff lol. The nice owner of this gelding is in no rush to sell him so we're cool on that part. I'm just so darned impatient. There is a serous shortage of Fjords around here as well. They all seem to be on the east coast or in Oregon for some reason!
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hj999 - sorry once again to hear about your paint. It looks like you've been able to share your life with a lot of equine spirits, that must be a good feeling.
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I HOPE that horse-lovers who are in the market (and here on this forum), print out and take the pictures posted WITH THEM, when they go shopping for their first horse. You'll notice that in EVERY SINGLE PHOTO, these horses show their good temperment. Kind eyes, relaxed faces, confident-in-their-jobs/place demeanor is SO important so you DON'T buy a CRAZY ANIMAL!!!!!, and get hurt. ALSO, please let the owners show you everything about the horse they are trying to sell to you, before you even think about getting aboard for a ride.
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