Anyone Owning A Friesian Please Help Help Help!!!!PICTURES ADDED!!!!

[Wolf-Kim]

She knew that if she didn't pay them, she was going to be in a world of hurt. Because if they didn't release those certificates, then she had 3(?) foals that wouldn't be registered. With the price of friesians, someone was going to demand their money back, I know I would have. If I bought a purebred "registered" foal and it wasn't registered, I would demand my money back or take her to court over the matter.

Now she has really screwed up, because she's made a poor name for herself. In the business of breeding animals, especially those as closely bred as friesians, reputation talks. She may be barred from breeding to the highest stallions. It will probably take her years to outlive this fiasco with you and the stallion owning breeders.

Just pick up your filly and go. Now you know to not do business with her or suggest her to other people.

 

[onthespot]

Okay, two things I still want to know... One, how many fresian mares did she have that she had three of them sitting around ovulating on the very same day? and two...

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE PICTURES OF THIS BABY!!!???

Have you guys seen the video of the daddy horse??? MAN ALIVE!!!

CHECK him OUTTTT!!!!

http://www.callyspictures.com/Portals/0/videos/Anne 340 websize.WMV

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

Grrrr. People's stupidity knows no bounds! What did this woman THINK would happen when she couldn't produce the paperwork? Did she think you'd just go away quietly?!? After paying her $7500 for the foal????! Yeash. So very, very many breeder problems seem to go back to trying to fiddle the stud owner out of his fees. And, jeez, the stud fee isn't even high or anything! In fact, I was expecting it to be at least twice that, considering the rarity of the breed and all.

I hope the rest of this goes smoothly!

Good luck!

Rusty

 

[patandchickens]

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As a corollary to my belief that the majority of sellers of horses are more or less honest (just often very misguided, underexperienced or stoopid), I also believe that an awful lot of cases like the one in this thread do not represent out-and-out dishonesty so much as getting behind and hoping to catch up before anyone notices.

It's perfectly possible the mare owner *intended* to pay the stud fees, but what with one thing and another in life found herself come up short and unable to do it, and was hoping that a) one or more of the buyers would neither notice nor care, and/or b) some other deals or opportunities or speculations that lay on the horizon would come to fruition in time to pay off the stallion fee before any irrevocable ill-will or practical consequences occurred.

Or, for a less honest option, there is the possibility of selling one foal under false pretenses but unchipped so there is Plausible Deniability, and using that money to cover stallion fees for the other(s) before anything irrevocably bad happens.

Of course there are always the "intending to skip the country before anyone noticed" and "realizing she'd be caught, but aware that court takes a long time and judgements can be hard to enforce" possibilities as well... but I would not guess them to be the likeliest.

Anyhow, you just GOTTA post pics of this foal when he's delivered, after all this, we want to see his cute furry face

Pat

 

[EweSheep]

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Dang he is ONE heck of a Friesian I've seen in liberty!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NancyDz]

Congrats on getting this sorted out. Interesting though, if you read the breeding contract they say they won't ship out the semen until they are paid in full... so they created this problem themselves by not following their own contract???


That Stallion is BEAUTIFUL!!! Can't wait to see your foal!


Nancy

 

[Chicken Fruit]

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She has four friesian mares, the forth was bred to mintse, the three to Anne- all four at the same time. She uses hormones to make them all ovulate on the same day. Or so she tells me.

As for pictures, as soon as she's home (saturday) I'll get some up fo ryou guys, keep your eyes on the thread.

 

[Chicken Fruit]

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It was the wife part of the stallion owner team. The breeder had called her last year with this HUGE sob story, she was a single mom, she was in the hole and hard up, nothing looked good for them, but if she could just breed her three mares she could make enough to save her business and save the house or whatever the plea was. Well the Lady felt so bad for her that she agreed to let her pay for only half the breeding fee cost, and only charged her one collection and shipping charge- and allowed her to just make monthly payments.

Well the breeder made a few payments and then stopped. Even though I was making HER monthly payments on my unborn foal.

The stallion owners were really cheesed off to find out that she had gone off and bought this huge 32 stall, full size indoor riding area with heated upper level enclosed viewing area, all the bells and whistles wood board fenced horse property whie still paying her own darn mortgage on the old house. I knew about that because she not only sent me emails and made me look at all the pictures she had of the place, and thats the new facility where my foal s bing picked up at on saturday.

Can you imagine? You try to do something nice for someone and THIS is what happens.

This breeder even had the gull to tell the stallion owner lady that "I Paid you 900 already of what I owe you, I dont owe you any more until you send me the birth certificate on this foal" CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?! That flew like a lead weight with them.

What a nut case.

 

[patandchickens]

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Pat

 

[farrier!]

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She has four friesian mares, the forth was bred to mintse, the three to Anne- all four at the same time. She uses hormones to make them all ovulate on the same day. Or so she tells me.

As for pictures, as soon as she's home (saturday) I'll get some up fo ryou guys, keep your eyes on the thread.

4 mares ovulating on the same day is highly improvable. A mare must be at a certain point in her cycle for an injection to work.....I think she is still feeding everyone a whole buck of "road apples".