are y'all better off than you were 4 years ago ?

[rufus]

So what comes first the cars that run N.G. or the stations to fill up the cars ?
What came first the chicken or the egg ?

The good think is that there's a supply line of N.G. out in front of most stations. The bad thing is that it takes about 15 to 20 minutes to fill up.

You can also buy the system to fill up at home. Just kind of a high price.
It is a good option for fleets.

What came first, the cell phone or the cell phone tower? If it takes tax breaks to get the infrastructure in place, I am for it. We have to do what is best for our nation. Oil and gas companies seem to attract a lot anger, and I don't understand that. Don't hate the rich, be the rich. Buy some stock in these companies.

 

[hemet dennis]

What came first, the cell phone or the cell phone tower? If it takes tax breaks to get the infrastructure in place, I am for it. We have to do what is best for our nation. Oil and gas companies seem to attract a lot anger, and I don't understand that. Don't hate the rich, be the rich. Buy some stock in these companies.

The cell phone came first.

In Calif. the cost to convert a car to N.G. starts at $10,000 plus $5,000 to $6,000 for a home refill system.

No company/corporation pays taxes. They do collect extra money from their consumers to pass on to the government.

 

[Big A Chickens]

I talked with an uncle last week --his job is setting up banking within a country. Really. I commented on the changes in our banking laws and how they really don't have any teeth. He totally agreed.  Then made some comment on how a few people should be shot for what they did.  And he was talking bout the big mucky-mucks that earn an extra 40$ mil in bonuses for loosing investor money. I had to agree with him. 

Another fellow was talking to me a couple years ago--the country with the most oil reserves wins. We need to get more solar in place. The prices have come down and the panels are much more efficient.  Electric companies already subsidize building better insulated houses, and at about $6K that was worth every penny. A few changes at initial construction will save in heating costs for the rest of the life of the house, or cooling. 

For those that have a little pot or a little plot, consider growing a few veggies. It will add to the larder.  Along with a chicken or two for eggs. 

Our country is gaining jobs. Compared to a year ago, the unemployment numbers are better. This isn't the whole picture, but one piece.  I see help wanted signs more than in past years. I see that as good news. National budgeting is different than private. for those concerned about the national debt, consider that our debt is not as big as other countries( sorry cant remember the details, just that we are not alone.) and a portion of that debt is due to a war that was kept off the book by the previous administration. The current admin felt it would be more honest to make the numbers public. To put the debt in perspective, consider each of the presidential campaigns will spend 1 BILLION in ads  in just the swing states according to the news I heard the other day. We can pull out of this. 

Banks and businesses are hording money that is needed to create confidence to buy; buying makes for demand, which encourages companies to hire and take risks. The loaning system has loosened up since 4 years ago, but it still needs to get loaning out that money. 

When I think my life is in the hole, I purposely think of the many people who are without water, or are living in a car. It is my reminder that I should be grateful for what I have, to laugh a little more,  to smile a little more ( it might make someones day) and to give my kids one more hug. I am grateful that I live in a time where vaccines and modern medicine keep my kids healthy and me healthy. That we have access to fresh foods all year long, tomatoes, and green leaf lettuces. That cars are more fuel efficient than ever before. That with the technology of the internet and this forum I can chat with friends for a few minutes. I choose to look for the silver lining. 

Could not have said it better myself. But, to answer the question:

Yes, I am better off today than I was 4 years ago. And I will be better off 4 years from now, regardless of who is in charge. I know where my help comes from. I'm sure that there many people are in a worse position than I am, so I will always count my blessings and be thankful for what I have today!!

 

[71stbrew]

Internet stores don't need employees funny I thought I and my sister worked for Amazon

 

[hemet dennis]

Internet stores don't need employees funny I thought I and my sister worked for Amazon

I think you just support them so maybe you should write them off on your taxes.

 

[71stbrew]

Someone has to do the grunt work that gets orders to the public. Not trying to be inflamatory just saying that if you buy a product someone had to work to get that product to you. Not that Amazon is great but they do employ in this country.

 

[Capvin]

Quote:
To me those number you quote seem ridiculous. I was partt owner and ran a propane distrinution company for a while and the conversion process for all of our trucks and automobiles was simple and cheap and took less then an hour. I am certain that it is nor more complicated or expensive to convert to NG. I think the parts were about $200.00. The real cost is the tank, however, when we converted our trucks we just put the tank in the bed.

 

[rufus]

Yes, I thought that Dennis' figures were all out of alignment. But then, I remembered that he lives in the Peoples' Republic of California, and they tend to have a lot of weird and kinky laws. It is one of those places that you have to have a ton of hearings, impact statements and a snow storm of permits before you can even pick your nose. For him, those figures might be correct. He needs to go to Arizona or Nevada and just have the conversion done.

Pilot Flying J and Travel Centers of America truck stops have natural gas facilities.

 

[rufus]

Mea culpa Dennis, Iran does have nine refineries. I was wrong.

And about the question of refueling time for natural gas, there is a pressure reducer on your gas line just before the meter. Otherwise, you couldn't use it for household purposes. Special adaptions have to be made to refuel an automobile. The refilling time for those state vehicles that ran on natural gas was pretty much comparable to those on gasoline.

The state motor pool has its own gas station.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Never seen a NG car. I assume it is the same setup an a propane car? Vapor fuel carburetor, expansion chamber, spark arrester, pressure regulator an a tank?