Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[appps]

Yep same ratio. Vetafarm also do polivisol plus, you just make it up to sticky paste and mine love it . Something everyone should have in their first aid box.

http://www.thebirdcottage.com/s-poly-aidplus.asp

She is a pain, I had that too from once before you suggested it and she won't eat it either. I ended up even putting the paste on the underside of some watermelon to try and trick her but she would eat around the edges and leave the middle with it on it. Arghhh lol. Thus why I was so excited to find a water soluble one lol

You know the other thing I've forgotten to mention is she is still regurgitating water. I just pulled the base out of the cage and hosed it so she had a wander and I noticed she straight away went for some dirt but as she bent over she dribbled water out her beak. She was doing that straight after the surgery but I hadn't realised it was still going on

Each time I hose the cage base there is a puddle of water in the corner which I couldn't quite explain but though must be a combination of water left from hosing and the diareah. Now wondering if it's the water she is drinking coming back up. Probably a good 100-150 ml I guess. I wonder if there is still a blockage in the asophagus. Think I'll make a trip to the vet tomorrow.

 

[Fancychooklady]

She is a pain, I had that too from once before you suggested it and she won't eat it either. I ended up even putting the paste on the underside of some watermelon to try and trick her but she would eat around the edges and leave the middle with it on it. Arghhh lol. Thus why I was so excited to find a water soluble one lol

You know the other thing I've forgotten to mention is she is still regurgitating water. I just pulled the base out of the cage and hosed it so she had a wander and I noticed she straight away went for some dirt but as she bent over she dribbled water out her beak. She was doing that straight after the surgery but I hadn't realised it was still going on

Each time I hose the cage base there is a puddle of water in the corner which I couldn't quite explain but though must be a combination of water left from hosing and the diareah. Now wondering if it's the water she is drinking coming back up. Probably a good 100-150 ml I guess. I wonder if there is still a blockage in the asophagus. Think I'll make a trip to the vet tomorrow.

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good. Water running from the beak is usually a symptom of sour crop. I would try her on some cooked rice and raw egg and consult the vet. You can administer buffered aspirin for her pain.

http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/solutions.html

 

[kat79]

He looks lovely Kat. I hope you find a away that he can stay.

So am I satay. At the moment he still young so later I am thinking a cat carrier in the garage for the night and let him do his singing in the house then put him out after his finished, howeve if his like scoob his going to sing morning afternoon and night soat that point he may need to stay inside all the time.

 

[MyHaven]

Thanks, I didn't realise they are that small.  I hope the big girls don't pick on her when (if) they go in together with them - although with the flying skills the tiny girls have, they could easily fly up and away.  I'll have to put some high perches in there, maybe. 

I have mine in with orpingtons and aras ATM they get in fine but I can't put them in the same run as the bigger older girls because it is made of wire mesh and although the POLs don't, the younger ones walk straight through the mesh. I had one crowing still going through the 50mm squares. The rotter.

I let them all free range together and they get on fine. They have big personalities. I only have one, a Sussex, that I am wary about with them.

I'm on gumtree all the time trying to find a good sized, good priced aviary for them.

 

[appps]

I'm on gumtree all the time trying to find a good sized, good priced aviary for them.

Good luck lol. I've been doing the same for our dove but they are either eBay ones at more than they cost new on eBay or hand made so so heavy you need to bring six guys with you to move it sigh

 

[MyHaven]

Heavy is good in a wind storm but not so convenient to move. I have a big steel one that two of us can waddle about into place. I want to duplicate it.

All on gumtree are either too big for a trailer or on the other side of the world. I do find chickens within range though.

Hey- I pick up my brahma eggs tomorrow.

 

[User395221]

or on the other side of the world.

Why are the good things often out "woop-woop"? People always seem to be and hour's drive away... sigh I have found a lot of good stuff nearer to home, but often they seem to be in the sticks.

 

[Fizzybelle]

MyHaven, yeah my speckled sussex is a bit of a bother when it comes to my little Beatrice. Funnily though, Bea has no problems with my alpha hen Ada, an Australorp hybrid. Ada is a bit more chill than my other two big girls.

Appps, I use that same brand of probiotics, at the dosage recommended on the bottle. It's great, dissolves with no trace, no smell, nothing. Lasts a while too. I quite like a lot of the avian vetafarm products. Hope Carls vet trip tomorrow yields positive results for her She's a very pretty hen.

I googled homemade fly traps and made one out of an old milk bottle (that's what was sitting on top of the recycling bin so that's what I went with). See how it goes. If not, I'll go to bunnings, and try their traps. Thanks for the advice everyone

 

[MyHaven]

MyHaven, yeah my speckled sussex is a bit of a bother when it comes to my little Beatrice. Funnily though, Bea has no problems with my alpha hen Ada, an Australorp hybrid. Ada is a bit more chill than my other two big girls.

Appps, I use that same brand of probiotics, at the dosage recommended on the bottle. It's great, dissolves with no trace, no smell, nothing. Lasts a while too. I quite like a lot of the avian vetafarm products. Hope Carls vet trip tomorrow yields positive results for her She's a very pretty hen.

I googled homemade fly traps and made one out of an old milk bottle (that's what was sitting on top of the recycling bin so that's what I went with). See how it goes. If not, I'll go to bunnings, and try their traps. Thanks for the advice everyone

Let me know how the home made trap goes. I never found one that worked as effectively as the store bought ones.

My light Sussex was fine with the rest of the flock including the bantams. Then I moved and the run wasn't completed so they were crowded for awhile. She and her sister turned nasty to the bantams. I rehomed them. But 12 months later I have her back. She'll go again if she doesn't play nice.

 

[Anniebee]

( part of Teilas' post ).

Fizzybelle I have found that the deep little method in the run definitely keeps fly numbers down.

In my first effort to reduce flies, I tried fermented feed as FF was reported to do that. I gave it a good 6 month trial. There may have been a slight reduction in numbers but that also may have just been wishful thinking on my part that the plan worked. While there may have been beneficial affects, not enough for me to continue with FF .. the girls ate it but were not as keen as they are for their dry feed.

The deep litter method has definitely reduced the fly numbers. I think it was in here that I read that someone did not like the idea of the chickens being “surrounded by their own poop” but I do not find that to be the case.

As the girls are constantly scratching, they are turning the litter over, drying out the poops quickly. I also give it a good turn with the garden fork every afternoon. I never see a significant amount of poop and this summer, definitely did not have many flies.

To Teila, Fizzybelle, MyHaven --- ( and all others who might be interested ).

I use deep litter method of keeping a coop --- and it certainly does keep way way down, the flies.

In fact, can honestly say flies do not hover at all - except on fresh woopsies way outside in the run. And even then, not for long as the girls chase them to catch !! ( with little success I might add ).

The ' fun ' part of deep litter is cleaning of the coop.

. You need a very sharp hard spatula type tool - or even the old spade dug in deep above whatever you have as flooring, plus a range of other sharpish tool bizzos - and a large stock produce bag.

But boy ..... does it ever give up good chookie manure .... after the hard yards have been done.

I decided on doing this after reading online, some facts on deep litter. [ Sounded terrific, to me.]

As you all know, chickens pass their woopsies overnight ( and during the day when feeding at their tucker outlet or drinking, inside the coop ) .... and it is ultimately stamped down by their little tootsies over a period of time, particularly if they have been locked up because of heavy rain or because they need to become bored for a half day, so feed more ( etc ). I don't let my girls out early - more like mid morning on a good day. They only make a lotta noise when they detect movement at the rear of our home. I let them out ( after going to the toilet myself ) - the little blighters HEAR the toilet flush ! and start up. I do this to make sure they don't tear a claw out on fine wiring on their coop door. !! Otherwise..... they are as quiet as church mice.

Fresh wood shavings plus straw on laying nest ( on the floor ??

), are added frequently and the whole process continues.

At some stage, the microbes go to work on it. Have no idea what microbes they are !!! The microbe thingies break it all down into really solid solid mass, and so we end up with woopsie cement on the flooring of the coop. That could get to inches thick ... but I spade, scrape, chip, lift and knife at the solid mass every 2 months or so, in order that it doesn't become too unmanagable.

Family / friends beg for bags of the stuff. The microbes do most of the work, with a lot of stamping help from the chooks - and it becomes manure of the purest kind.

Added benefit ---- NO FLIES. At least not in or around the coop.

In fact, I can honestly say we are almost completely fly-less out there.

Give it a go - but be prepared for some hard yacka every couple of months or so.

Cheers .......