Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[Anniebee]

Interesting.

Dr Google says: Reservoirs of infection may be present in other species such as rodents and cats. (I have rodents and a cat who is always hunting in the run the rodents, I also have visiting cats.)

Many symptoms are the same such as
Dejection.
Ruffled feathers.
Loss of appetite.
Diarrhoea.
Coughing.
Nasal, ocular and oral discharge.
Swollen and cyanotic wattles and face. (Mine don't have swollen wattles)
Sudden death.
Swollen joints.
Lameness. (My girl that survived the fox snatch has wobbled a bit the last few days - but she hasn't been sure tooted since the attack)
Swollen joints - (I'll check that one out tomorrow, I hadn't found any during early inspections)

A young roo has developed symptoms today - raspy breathing. He was in the exposed but no symptoms pen.

Discovered a new symptom today - one started feather picking today. He's been sick for awhile.

MyHaven ...... you sure are having a difficult time.

So sorry I cannot offer any solutions to your problems. Hoping for the best, is the best I can offer.

The fact that you haven't lost any further birds is a good sign. Guess you have your work cut out for you, inspecting and observing all your girls and your roo, for signs of nasties, morning, noon and night !.

I do feel for you. ....

........ AB

 

[Anniebee]

Good morning folks

mooandmcgee that was sweet of your hubby.

Remember how I said that the snap trap had been triggered, bait gone but no rat? Yesterday I decided to relocate the decorative bridge which is in our garden. The snap trap was set near the bridge the night before.

I found the rat, dead under the bridge. I confess to not examining him very closely because it was creeping me out, but there were no obvious wounds.

I find that a bit weird. Hubby reckons the snap trap would have killed him but if he was not caught in it, how would it have killed him? He reckons the snap could have given him a fatal blow on the way down but I am thinking those things are fast and if it touched him it would have trapped him?

I also found a half eaten gecko on the pavers, next to the chicken’s outside water container.

All very strange.

Have used snap traps with similar results - catching most .... but bait gone, trap set off on other occasions, with no rat. Perhaps the rat you found dead, had been struck heavily on the head by the trap shut, and suffered the consequences, as your hubby suggested. Mostly the traps do kill them, but the occasional one gets away ( with the cheese ). Jam on bread is a good offering - they tend to try to nibble at the jam - and bang - trap goes off, no more rat.

A half eaten gecko ? The mind boggles as to what might have got to that !!

Cheers ........

 

[User395221]

I bought 2 different types of mouse trap today. I've set them up next to the run so the girls can't interfere with them. We shall see whether the mousies want to go near them. I feel really bad, I don't like killing things.

 

[IamSamSam]

I bought 2 different types of mouse trap today.  I've set them up next to the run so the girls can't interfere with them.  We shall see whether the mousies want to go near them. I feel really bad, I don't like killing things.

I use these with huge success using food I feed the chicken as bait

 

[IamSamSam]

330 am good morning world Brain : still sleeping rack off !

 

[IamSamSam]

Boys and I had a fantastic day in the city.

 

[appps]

And this, Fancy, is precisely why I will not have any form of bait anywhere near or in  my home.   As most homes in our area do not  have fences, we have to be sure Ruby doesn't sniff out a nice bit of snail ( metaldehyde ) bait to have a taste of when out walking ( while we are  perhaps talking to an acquaintance from our little village or whatever ).  Gotta be vigiliant - and that is not paranoia. 

Just common sense.  

Poisons of any form are OUT....    Some manufacturers of rodent and snail bait, have added a substance that is supposed to stop dogs eating it.    The jury is still out on that one.   

thanks for the info  ....  and incidentally, new born ( human )  babies are given Vitamin K injections ( even these days ) to prevent a bleeding disorder that can occur. ( haemorrhagic disease of the new born ).  So for all ( except me ) - anti-coagulants are a no-no.   I have a blood clotting disorder myself, called "Activated Protein C Resistance Factor V Leiden" ... which causes the blood to actually clot much more than is normal ... which results in DVT's, and on one occasion ( before it was discovered ) had me with a pulmonary embolism which I managed to survive.    It is an inherited condition and thank God my 3 grown children who had to be checked by blood tests, have not inherited it from me.    

So I inject myself every two days with Clexane / enoxaparin ( similar but better than heparin, and certainly waaay better than Warfarin ).   I am not permitted to go anywhere near Warfarin, which is commonly used by doctors for DVT's and is the cheapest of all anti-coagulants.  The reason being, another medical condition and I get the dearer stuff ... !!    

So extreme is the effect of Warfarin, ( too long a time to reverse the effects of it ), that people who are  unfortunately  on the stuff, have to carry an anti-coagulant alert card ( and / or wear a medi-bracelet denoting Warfarin use )  with them wherever they go, in the case of say - an accident that causes profuse bleeding.  It is the least susceptible anti-coagulant to being reversed.  I wear a medi-bracelet, to be on the safe side, especially for medications and the injections I have to have.   

Grand stuff eh ?  .......    

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My dr gave me an are you nuts look when I asked about a medi alert card for warfarin. My mum was never told to carry one either. To me it's just common sense so I made my own to put in my wallet.

Warfarin is fairly easy to reverse. I once took the wrong colour tablet for a week giving myself 5's instead of 2's and despite my bloods being as high as their test went (thank goodness I finally realised!) a single vitamin k injection fixed it within a few hours.

 

[LuckysMum]

MyHaven Sorry to hear you are still getting sick birds. I hope they all get better quickly. Sorry I can't offer anything more than hoping all goes well soon.

We thought Lucky had gone missing yesterday. We have tried getting her in with the others now they are getting big enough to defend themselves. So Sunday night we counted them all in the main pen, we all got different number the chooks wouldn't sit still. Haha yesterday morning I went to see them before I went to work and couldn't find lucky. I thought oh no we didn't count properly and she got left out all night. So I frantically ran around the yard behind the shed everywhere and couldn't find her. I woke one of my sons up to help me search. Our back fence is only 5ft high and she seems to be a flier. (She gets over a 4 ft fence) Anyway Scott goes into the coop and there she is. Paul a made bigger nesting boxes with sjturner's measurement, because these are inside we didn't want them to roost on them so Paul put fence on top of it, it goes up to about a foot from the roof. Well there she is perched on the little fence. I don't know how she managed that. But I think today I will have to clip her wings.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I use these with huge success using food I feed the chicken as bait

I had a look at those, but I'm bit of a ' chicken ' don't think I could kill them after I trapped them.

 

[Fancychooklady]

And this, Fancy, is precisely why I will not have any form of bait anywhere near or in  my home.   As most homes in our area do not  have fences, we have to be sure Ruby doesn't sniff out a nice bit of snail ( metaldehyde ) bait to have a taste of when out walking ( while we are  perhaps talking to an acquaintance from our little village or whatever ).  Gotta be vigiliant - and that is not paranoia. 

Just common sense.  

Poisons of any form are OUT....    Some manufacturers of rodent and snail bait, have added a substance that is supposed to stop dogs eating it.    The jury is still out on that one.   

thanks for the info  ....  and incidentally, new born ( human )  babies are given Vitamin K injections ( even these days ) to prevent a bleeding disorder that can occur. ( haemorrhagic disease of the new born ).  So for all ( except me ) - anti-coagulants are a no-no.   I have a blood clotting disorder myself, called "Activated Protein C Resistance Factor V Leiden" ... which causes the blood to actually clot much more than is normal ... which results in DVT's, and on one occasion ( before it was discovered ) had me with a pulmonary embolism which I managed to survive.    It is an inherited condition and thank God my 3 grown children who had to be checked by blood tests, have not inherited it from me.    

So I inject myself every two days with Clexane / enoxaparin ( similar but better than heparin, and certainly waaay better than Warfarin ).   I am not permitted to go anywhere near Warfarin, which is commonly used by doctors for DVT's and is the cheapest of all anti-coagulants.  The reason being, another medical condition and I get the dearer stuff ... !!    

So extreme is the effect of Warfarin, ( too long a time to reverse the effects of it ), that people who are  unfortunately  on the stuff, have to carry an anti-coagulant alert card ( and / or wear a medi-bracelet denoting Warfarin use )  with them wherever they go, in the case of say - an accident that causes profuse bleeding.  It is the least susceptible anti-coagulant to being reversed.  I wear a medi-bracelet, to be on the safe side, especially for medications and the injections I have to have.   

Grand stuff eh ?  .......    

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Oh you poor thing, I feel for you. For 3 years I had to have clexane injections and I'm such a sook when it comes to needles. My tummy was black and blue so they started giving them to me in my legs. Thank goodness those days are behind me.