Well Ducky i have some news for you. I found my mumma runner had stashed a nest of eggs under a bush in the yard. I actually saw her on them this time lol. So i gave them to my muscovey to sit on. I had pretty much given up on them hatching as i could not remember when I gave them to her but when I went down to lock them in the pen before. I can report I got to witness my first runner hatch. It is a lovely black colour with the fawn colour of the female on the wing tips. I didn't get any pictures as it is almost dark here because of overcast weather. I was soooo excited to see it hatch and it to be a duck after my last debarkle lol. I will try to get pics tomorrow if I get home early enough. Have to take teenage son to specialist an hour away tomorrow after he broke his arm in 2 places on easter monday.