Australorps breed Thread

[fowlman01]

but no one said apa was saying that, just an australorp organization..i read it it did kind of sound like it was dictating, maybe they should put a footnote that international mens only us and canada..i could kind of see how geoff would get upset..

it would feel a little funny to some people if rir international in china had a dictation on how the standard was to look..i have a feeling there would be some upset people. and more than a few loud voices about it....so i see his point..no one also said the word dispicable..im not sure where your getting that? i said the argument about not liking english imports is like DESPISING your grandfather..they created the bird. it is their creation, like australorp is australian creation. ..if there ever were an international standard..they would have the lions share of input as we would on buckeye and rir..there never will be a true international standard, but things always evolve in poultry.
the word despise means not liked in certian circles.

OK, I have never heard despised used. If any breed club wants to use International to include Canada it has nothing to do with the APA and the APA does not dictate anything to any other country in regards to their Standards. I haven't read both Standards yet, but I would imagine the Aussie/Brit Standard for Australorps is very close to the same as the APA. Do you know what the differences are? I haven't read it yet, so I don't know. I know that their Standards for the Orps in the US and Britain are not very different. The Brits call for a smaller head and allow more fluff, but that is about it. I am still responding to your posts in the same vein that you post them.

I know what the word despised means and I have never heard it applied to the like or dislike of a chicken. I know what you are saying about despising your grandpa too, but it is off the wall as I said earlier. It is a powerful word. If there was an International Standard the Aussies and Brits would have to go with the featherlegged Marans as the APA and the French do. Get on the French or the Brits, the APA has nothing to do with dictating Standards to other countries and there will never be an International Standard. The Brits wont change it for the Marans as an example...and they have differences in our American breeds and I doubt that they have any intention of changing either. I am not sure why you like otomake the APA a bad guy.

The Aussie SOP has 200 pages and the APA SOP has 400 pages. The Aussie SOP barely describes anything and that is why it has so few pages.

Edit: Just checked the two standards. The only difference between the Aussie Standard and the APA SOP that I can see is that the APA SOP goes into much more detail. The descriptions appear to be the same......so I again don't see how the APA was pulled into this. Have you compared both?

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

This was not an APA issue.

Lets get back on topic Please

It became one when someones post implied that the APA was trying to dictate Standards for the rest of the world. I said all I need to say. There are lots of lurkers who read and believe some of this goofy stuff here, so I will always respond to misinformed posts if they concern the APA.

w.

 

[groche]

Wow! You've got Big Brother on here. Makes your China analogy seem kinda ironic, Aveca. It's really handy to be informed that the word 'international' now means America and Canada. And, I'll rush off to burn my copy of the Australian SOP as now I know that it "barely describes anything"!
For the record: My complaint was to Jim and Maggie, who started the "International Australorp...Club." I've never mentioned the APA!
I think a North American Australorp Club is a terrific idea.
Never having read the American SOP for Australorps, I've never criticised it nor suggested that it needs changing.
Now, can you please turn the cameras off and let us go back to discussing our favorite International birds.
Cheers Geoff from Aus

 

[aveca]

big brother is an understatement.

i
mentioned apa from a previous conversation..there was no insult in it thou people often read one into it.they just enjoy being mad at me without understanding or discussion..just read 1 or 2 words and jump to conclusions..or just try pretending im stupid..

 

[aveca]

geoff , i took lot of pictures for you of australorps at the show, just have to wait to get on laptop thought you would enjoy, this show boasts a sizable aussie class..must have been 25 maybe more entered.. they took a whole row both sides..thats a lot for this breed, but then they have a guy who should be poultry person of the year for the things he does to help people...got a question..he tries to find somone who can help..he doesnt have an im superior bone in his body..he has built this kind of interest just by a good nature..i will load them up for you later...

 

[aveca]

can you find somebody else to bother now? you are way too over sensitive about this apa thing walt..a 1918 picture in sop is still an 1918 picture, even if you turn it upside down, so befor you get all superior on us..take a step back and take a long look at yourself ..apa isnt the lofty mountian of gods you might imagine your pictures and some breeds pics are still missing. there..since your insulting me..your the biggest reason i havnt spent a dime on apa..trust me i have money..to donate, join, buy products ect...but when people ask me why dont i join apa ..then they tell me..im loosing points right and left at these shows because i win and it doesnt go anywhere.....i say because i dont care about it..and someday i will tell them about their exemplary proffesional judges...thou im trying hard not to be like that..since apa is independantly wealthy and doesnt need my money, maybe they can commission that blk orp picture.i go to the shows only to guage where im at..for myself..have freinds to visit there, the points mean nothing to me.absolutly nothing..so congratulations for a job well done.

OK, I have never heard despised used. If any breed club wants to use International to include Canada it has nothing to do with the APA and the APA does not dictate anything to any other country in regards to their Standards. I haven't read both Standards yet, but I would imagine the Aussie/Brit Standard for Australorps is very close to the same as the APA. Do you know what the differences are? I haven't read it yet, so I don't know. I know that their Standards for the Orps in the US and Britain are not very different. The Brits call for a smaller head and allow more fluff, but that is about it. I am still responding to your posts in the same vein that you post them.

I know what the word despised means and I have never heard it applied to the like or dislike of a chicken. I know what you are saying about despising your grandpa too, but isnt it funny, their birds look 10 times better than ours, but then they invented the birdpit is off the wall as I said earlier. It is a powerful word. If there was an International Standard the Aussies and Brits would have to go with the featherlegged Marans as the APA and the French do. Get on the French or the Brits, the APA has nothing to do with dictating Standards to other countries and there will never be an International Standard. The Brits wont change it for the Marans as an example...and they have differences in our American breeds and I doubt that they have any intention of changing either. I am not sure why you like otomake the APA a bad guy.

The Aussie SOP has 200 pages and the APA SOP has 400 pages. The Aussie SOP barely describes anything and that is why it has so few pages.

Edit: Just checked the two standards. The only difference between the Aussie Standard and the APA SOP that I can see is that the APA SOP goes into much more detail. The descriptions appear to be the same......so I again don't see how the APA was pulled into this. Have you compared both?

Walt

 

[Rachel'sFlock]

Looking forward to harmony in the Aussie group coop again...

 

[aveca]

Here are some pics of australorps at a show.
a line of cockerals



further down the line









My friend Bob Whitney doing his thing, helping people out, his australorp hen and pullet were grand and reserve english and LF..the australorps actually belonged to Bobs son, but sadly he died years ago..Bob and his wife keep them going..Bob told me when his son died he learned what was really important in life..treating people well..you never know when you might loose them to something like cancer..Bob shows langshans was also asiatic champion at the last several shows he went to..salt of the earth people, and my camera had condensation , very cool outside..inside the building was nice



Bobs aussie pullet and hen on champion row.
those are his langshans to the left.







Im a ribbon hound..I LOVE the ribbons, big ones small ones , doesnt matter..heres mine from last year.

.this year I lost my best birds to weasles. I just poke the ribbons into a frame, stick them out on the wall in chicken barn..im sorry my aussie breeding skills wernt better..Bob gave me a nice rooster, but hens were pretty scarce..I tried some hatchery cross, but got nothing but a few more nice egg laying hens..If I really wanted some He would get them for me..But I thought it over...Its just so much fun watching him win ..I got orps instead.




just for interest here are my birds this year, the hen was still rooster tattered and the cockeral had weasle damage, he lost big chunk of tail and wing feathers so wasnt expecting anything..just to see my freinds and maybe get a ribbon. you can kind of see in cockeral pic his tail is still a little skimpy but growing back nicley, he had such a beautiful tail befor the attack..but it will all come back, the wing feathers and feather quills were present.. we still had a fun day ..talked to lots of people, toured the area..

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

From Post #1

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*For talking about the Australop breed and it's colour's including White,Blue,And slplash. Pics are welcomed *

i have just my first dozen of black Australop chicks to day. I hope to get a few blue of splash chicks this year to

callducks is from Waterville, Canada. The intent of this thread was the discussion of the Australorp. Not the Australian Australorp, but the Canadian Australorp, which per the SOP is the same as the US Australorp.

 

[BlackPanther]

Lovely Orpingtons, Aveca!

I'm a little confused about the Australorps, really, so I hope someone can help.
First, are Australorps supposed to be more egg-laying, (f.e. the record Australorp that took a single day off from laying) or are they broody?
Next, are they foraging, or is it just the hatchery Australorps that I've heard are not good foragers?
Finally, how is their temperament, from all of you who deal with yours more than just for changing food and water and collecting eggs?