Australorps breed Thread

Hi folks, as promised, a few pics of my cull. Giving some of the young pullets (and the odd boy that slipped through early) a good coat of looking at! Just for a bit of fun for the more experienced. Why have I chosen to cull these 2 guys even though they have quite good conformation? The first boy is going to a mate for his flock of layers and the 2nd to the pot. They have just started to crow so combs are not fully developed. Cheers Geoff from Aus
I like head two more. Head one has too long of a beak and the whole head looks elongated, or crow headed. Looking at head one, just below the middle point of the main three points there is a flat spot that peaks above the eye. This spot adds to that elongated look. Both combs have little bumps at the front, which the more there are the less I like. I usually count points from the back point( not counting the blade or any splits in the blade causing a false blade, which many australorps including the ones pictured do) to the front. I will accept any from 4-6 points( major thing I'm culling for this season). When I count five from the back, I then see the nubs in the front. One or two is acceptable, excepting everything else is ok, but three starts to take away from the elegance of the head(none is ideal, but there are always exceptions). I'd love to see body profiles when the birds are mature. My breeding pens are set. This is my earliest start as I'm usually showing, but decided future generations are more important than a placing. I have 2 hens and 6 pullets, two cocks and two cockerels. I also have a cockerel and one pullet that I believe to be out of a white hen( which I may breed this trio seperate to try to establish the color). From these birds I have set 24 eggs, which I think is decent considering laying season is just beginning. Things I have problems with in my birds: Flat backs(more orp like) Fluffy thighs Length of shank( I had a male of another line that stands to my knees, with super long shanks, but his weight has caused his legs to bow together so he's on his way off the property.) Comb points(from a trio of birds with five points each last year, I produced only about 5 or 6 out of thirty that had less than 7 points and all but one were females.) Most of my breeding pens are set with extremes. My best backed females are with a male that needs work, but he has less fluff than they do so it counters both ways. I have two pairings that are experiments of how my line will mix with another. My best pullets are over my fluffy cockbird which I can predict still more fluffy butts, but nicer backs hopefully. I plan to hatch at least 75 birds and I can hatch 100 that will make me happy. In previous years our fertility was horrid, in like 3 years we hatched five birds kinda bad. So with numbers comes options. One thing I can do is start culling for points at a young age, then when I have enough decently combed birds to choose from I'll start growing them out with as much growing space and as much food as they'll eat(which scares me :) ). Then I can cull at about six to seven months for backs and fluffies. Then let those grow out and choose next years breeders(hopefully only about 10 or less will be kept, though I'll keep more if they are worth it). And hopefully we can get our own house by next season, and I won't be so crammed. Keep the pictures coming, I may not post too much but my Internet bill on my phone goes through the roof because I am here multiple times a day everyday. I'm here if there are questions, you just have to ask!
 
Hi Cuba,
great comb analysis. Crikey, you're gonna be a tough judge! I agree with what you say, though bird 1's comb will fill out and make him look less 'crowheaded.' My main issue with him is that his comb is showing his Langshan heritage. The upright rear is characteristic of Langshans. In BA's we like it to have the "blade tending downwards without touching the neck". He would probably breed ok as this isn't an issue with his siblings. My major problem areas are flattish backs and fluffy thighs. Ray Connor suggests that wing carriage is critical to the fluffy thigh issue. Avoid breeding with saggy-winged roos. Ray wants to see the wings carried horizontally and tucked right up under the saddle hackles. He reckons that it's often the wings sagging down from the top of the saddle that causes thigh feathers to 'stick out'. He also suggests that the feathers be only long enough to cover the fluff and no more. ie. don't use long feathered birds if you're trying to avoid fluffy thighs. Hope this is of some interest.
Cheers Geoff from Aus
 
That is an orpington trait..Vickie calls it a rocker comb..
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Wow that was a long post, sorry about that!
For what it's worth Kid, I think it is an excellent post! I agree with Geoff, you are going to be a tough cookie with your judging!

Excellent posts by all, really informative and extremely well delivered. Great learning experience for us BA novices.

Kid, I too have decided not to show any birds this spring for two reasons - first, like you, I'd rather work on my line, and secondly, unlike you, I'd have to learn the ropes from the very beginning. I think I'll visit a couple of shows and talk with some exhibitors then maybe try my hand this Fall just to start getting some experience.

Sorry I've been incapacitated with bronchitis and such for over two weeks, I have checked in a time or two but haven't felt well of an evening. Coughing till my ribs ache LOL. Still my chores have to be done so guess who's out there in the slush and icy weather taking care of the animals and birds LOL. I wouldn't have it any other way!
 
For what it's worth Kid, I think it is an excellent post! I agree with Geoff, you are going to be a tough cookie with your judging!

Excellent posts by all, really informative and extremely well delivered. Great learning experience for us BA novices.

Kid, I too have decided not to show any birds this spring for two reasons - first, like you, I'd rather work on my line, and secondly, unlike you, I'd have to learn the ropes from the very beginning. I think I'll visit a couple of shows and talk with some exhibitors then maybe try my hand this Fall just to start getting some experience.

Sorry I've been incapacitated with bronchitis and such for over two weeks, I have checked in a time or two but haven't felt well of an evening. Coughing till my ribs ache LOL. Still my chores have to be done so guess who's out there in the slush and icy weather taking care of the animals and birds LOL. I wouldn't have it any other way!

X2 cubakid !

Sorry you havnt been feeling well..Hope your feeling better soon dan..
 
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Wow that was a long post, sorry about that!
You should feel really encouraged by the positive comments on here, Cuba.
We've discussed combs before and I'd just like to reiterate that we shouldn't be too preoccupied with them. The Aussie SOP allocates 5 points to comb and wattle. 50 points for combined Type and Freedom from Coarseness. It's a bit of a no-brainer where we should be focussing our breeding efforts! Of course, we do need to ensure that the number of comb serrations doesn't exceed the relevant SOP. Cuba, hope you took the "tough cookie" comment as a positive. All genuine breeders dislike fad and 'pretty bird' judges. Also the lazy, 'faultfinders', who might look at the soles of the feet, notice a few freckles and dismiss the bird. We all respect a judge who knows and respects the breed and assesses against the SOP. I reckon you're gonna be one of these! Cheers Geoff
 

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