B.Y.C. Dorking Club!
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my interpretation of what you're asking, i think...
angles like these?
my roo's tail is more open, like the angle on the left, while my hens tend to be more like the one in the middle. my oegb hen's tail is more like the right... just for examples.
my interpretation of what you're asking, i think...
angles like these?
my roo's tail is more open, like the angle on the left, while my hens tend to be more like the one in the middle. my oegb hen's tail is more like the right... just for examples.
As broke as I am, I'm going to have to actually buy the APA SOP. If you all are serious about breeding, you should do the same. Hopefully that will clear up my own questions.
X2Farm, I have to laugh about your tail question. There is so much discussion about pinched tails on the Dels, it has me staring at my Dorkings and wondering the same thing!
There are some great examples of "pinched tail" vs open on the Delaware thread btw.
I have never heard it mentioned, in regard to the Dorking, and nothing was said about the ones that I showed. Most of mine have the open tail. Maybe it's not an issue with this breed.
I have no idea where black legs on a Dorking would have come from, but I would guess from a cross somewhere back. Where is this strain from?
Kim
X2Farm, I have to laugh about your tail question. There is so much discussion about pinched tails on the Dels, it has me staring at my Dorkings and wondering the same thing!
There are some great examples of "pinched tail" vs open on the Delaware thread btw.
I have never heard it mentioned, in regard to the Dorking, and nothing was said about the ones that I showed. Most of mine have the open tail. Maybe it's not an issue with this breed.
I have no idea where black legs on a Dorking would have come from, but I would guess from a cross somewhere back. Where is this strain from?
Kim
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Nothing against the SOP but if someone is a bit confused or lacks experience with birds on the ground (which we can learn a lot from, both good and bad) I will suggest that for learning from the printed word Jan Irving's book will do more for your ability to feel confident about what a Dorking can and should be than just the SOP alone. It does address all issues that the SOP does but withj way more information about way more than just appearances. Which reminds me, as there has been a lot of what I will go out on a limb and call over concern about ear lobe color. All of these details can and do matter but only when they are being discussed in connection with very good to excellent Dorkings. Using great color of lobes and plumage tacked on to a mediocre bird is just insane when the world is not well blessed with large, typey typical Dorkings. Not saying throw it all to the winds but remember that we are interested in Dorkings that have the proper details. That is possible. To take that road from the opposite direction just gets us lost according to my road map. Also, and not in argument with the SOP but as a way of understanding what we are dealing with; there are older writings indicating that white, sometimes to a greater rather than lesser degree, has always been a facet of the Dorking breed and there has been, in the distant past, a lot of argument about just how far towards red should we desire to take the lobe color. So historical genetics may help us understand why we have what we have.
Nothing against the SOP but if someone is a bit confused or lacks experience with birds on the ground (which we can learn a lot from, both good and bad) I will suggest that for learning from the printed word Jan Irving's book will do more for your ability to feel confident about what a Dorking can and should be than just the SOP alone. It does address all issues that the SOP does but withj way more information about way more than just appearances. Which reminds me, as there has been a lot of what I will go out on a limb and call over concern about ear lobe color. All of these details can and do matter but only when they are being discussed in connection with very good to excellent Dorkings. Using great color of lobes and plumage tacked on to a mediocre bird is just insane when the world is not well blessed with large, typey typical Dorkings. Not saying throw it all to the winds but remember that we are interested in Dorkings that have the proper details. That is possible. To take that road from the opposite direction just gets us lost according to my road map. Also, and not in argument with the SOP but as a way of understanding what we are dealing with; there are older writings indicating that white, sometimes to a greater rather than lesser degree, has always been a facet of the Dorking breed and there has been, in the distant past, a lot of argument about just how far towards red should we desire to take the lobe color. So historical genetics may help us understand why we have what we have.
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Dave, fill me (us?) in what book you're referring to? the Jan Irving book that is?
thanks.
Dave, fill me (us?) in what book you're referring to? the Jan Irving book that is?
thanks.
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but is that what we want? the 2 on the left for roo and hen? if so that's what i've got. LOL
i remember thinking when i first got him it was strange. every time the wind blew it would blow his tail wide open and over his back practically. pretty good example of that in the vid i posted a while back. http://ki4got.com/byc/dogs-n-roos.avi it's funny how well they all get along now. tho he does have to stomp Funky's butt every time he gets out of line - like when he tries to flog me
Funky goes after me, Big Guy stomps Funky. Big Guy's my hero. wish i could get that on video.
but is that what we want? the 2 on the left for roo and hen? if so that's what i've got. LOL
i remember thinking when i first got him it was strange. every time the wind blew it would blow his tail wide open and over his back practically. pretty good example of that in the vid i posted a while back. http://ki4got.com/byc/dogs-n-roos.avi it's funny how well they all get along now. tho he does have to stomp Funky's butt every time he gets out of line - like when he tries to flog me
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http://www.cafepress.com/erinrac.27277643 Very neat book, a consolidation of information from a number of sources including British breeders and our own Craig Russell. I honestly can't think of anything addressed in the SOP that isn't part of this work and with great explanations and illustrations. There's an awful lot more to Dorkings than what they look like in a show cage and this book covers all of it. For those that have fallen for the Dokings this is a pretty nice little Christmas gift. Dave
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