I have the chick feeders that you attach a quart (or whatever size, I use a pint jar for my 3) jar to. Once they got really good at emptying the feeder (and knocking over the water at the same time), I ran wire around the jars to create a hanging feeder with. I just had to raise the food up again last night as they have gotten tall enough to reach the feeder with their scratching again! Just make sure they can reach in with their heads...mine had to stretch a little for the first few days and the smallest had to have a small branch to stand on to reach the water (the other two were so much taller!), but they really like having the food and water up...they hang out directly under them most of the time!