Bacterial infection causing severe bleeding?

[Chicken_Guru]

Yeah I will try to get a pic tomorrow of the blood. I do have all flock for him in there as well. He's also eating mealworms and dubia roaches once a day (I raise them for my reptiles)

Vet did not give me a specific name. We didn't send it to be cultured because A) no time with the blood loss and B) it wouldn't really change treatment plan any. Metro should fix almost any gastro bacterial infection.

Hopefully he is fine.

 

[Eggcessive]

How old is your rooster? Did the vet say that they did a fecal float for coccidia? Enteritis can affect chickens who have previously had untreated cocci. Enteritis is diagnosed with a gram stain, where most vets only test with a fecal float for worms or cocci. Enteritis can be treated with many different antibiotics.
Including amoxicillin, Tylan, and many others. Metronidazole might treat it , but it normally is used on other things like protozoa infections. I am not a vet, but I would call them Monday, and ask what the diagnosis is. I am thinking (and not a vet) that if it is enteritis, that he should also be treated with Corid and an antibiotic for enteritis either in that order or simultaneously. Feed him a tsp of a good plain yogurt daily with his feed--usually I mix it with egg, water, and a little chicken feed, for probiotics while and after he is on antibiotics.

 

[KentuckyRooster]

How old is your rooster? Did the vet say that they did a fecal float for coccidia? Enteritis can affect chickens who have previously had untreated cocci. Enteritis is diagnosed with a gram stain, where most vets only test with a fecal float for worms or cocci. Enteritis can be treated with many different antibiotics.
Including amoxicillin, Tylan, and many others. Metronidazole might treat it , but it normally is used on other things like protozoa infections. I am not a vet, but I would call them Monday, and ask what the diagnosis is. I am thinking (and not a vet) that if it is enteritis, that he should also be treated with Corid and an antibiotic for enteritis either in that order or simultaneously. Feed him a tsp of a good plain yogurt daily with his feed--usually I mix it with egg, water, and a little chicken feed, for probiotics while and after he is on antibiotics.

Yes they did a float for it. He's 4 months old, I just got him so I don't know a lot of his history- he may have had cocci as a baby.

 

[casportpony]

Metronidazole is what many vets prescribe for enteritis.

 

[casportpony]

Are you weighing him daily? Did the vet mention giving fluids or tube feeding? Can you talk to the vet about adding Baycox or Marquis to the treatment? I know the vet didn't find coccidia, but might be a good idea?

How did the vet determine it was a bacterial infection? Did the vet do a gram stain?

 

[KentuckyRooster]

So the bleeding stopped a few days ago and he seemed to be on the mend but he's emaciated.

We've had some sort of mystery illness (gout, but WHY) in our birds, and we thought we had it figured out that it was from them eating layer feed too young. But the emaciation is on point with the gout. This bird should not have it because we just got him. He wasn't a part of the group we got that got the layer feed too early.

I put a call in with the vet. He is out of the office. Of course. It will be monday before I hear anything. So, continue antibiotics and supportive care I guess.

He may have done a gram stain I'm not sure.

 

[rebrascora]

I have read your other posts and I didn't like to say anything until now but I was very sceptical about the gout diagnosis. I've had roosters eat layer feed for years and not have a problem and youngsters access it as well as their grower, without issue.
My gut feeling is that you have an outbreak of Marek's..... it is far more likely than gout, particularly as it is juvenile/adolescent birds that are affected. Lameness and wasting are the commonest symptoms of it, but it can cause many others too including secondary infections like coccidiosis, bacterial overload and respiratory problems because it compromises the immune system.

 

[staceyj]

I have read your other posts and I didn't like to say anything until now but I was very sceptical about the gout diagnosis. I've had roosters eat layer feed for years and not have a problem and youngsters access it as well as their grower, without issue.
My gut feeling is that you have an outbreak of Marek's..... it is far more likely than gout, particularly as it is juvenile/adolescent birds that are affected. Lameness and wasting are the commonest symptoms of it, but it can cause many others too including secondary infections like coccidiosis, bacterial overload and respiratory problems because it compromises the immune system.

I used to work with animals and although my area of expertise was never chickens, I'd have to say from intensive reading about mareks, I'm in agreement with you on this.
If it were my chickens I'd be very worried.
I think this is a distinct possibility.

 

[KentuckyRooster]

We are very worried about the possibility of Mareks. I've shed more tears in the past months than I have in years. These birds are my babies.

If we do have it..well, I don't know what then. But the next bird that dies is getting a necro no ifs ands or buts. We were going to do it on the last hen that we had all the Xrays pulled on but the experimental treatment for the gout has been working and she's alive, though not out of the woods.

Either her or this roo are going to die. I don't think they will both live, the fatality rate is too high. And the next one who does is going to get cut open by the vet and we are finding this out once and for all. I can't DO this any more.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I'm so very sorry.

I know you are doing everything you can.