Bad rooster

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[bantygirl]

Well I went out today and to my surprise Fred (bad roo) didn't do anything, we had a good fight yesterday and maybe I showed him who was boss but I still would like a sweet polish roo, I have 5 others in different breed coops and none of them r bad they try to round me up with their girls it's funny, someone said something about cock fighting so now I'm thinking of that how awful that would be, thanks for all the advice.

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

Well I went out today and to my surprise Fred (bad roo) didn't do anything, we had a good fight yesterday and maybe I showed him who was boss but I still would like a sweet polish roo, I have 5 others in different breed coops and none of them r bad they try to round me up with their girls it's funny, someone said something about cock fighting so now I'm thinking of that how awful that would be, thanks for all the advice.

I didn't realize he was a Polish. I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if anyone wanted him for cockfighting.

 

[Beekissed]

He can be trained, most likely, if your hubs wants to keep him. Training is easy and kinda fun, especially if he's already terrorized you...you get to flip that coin and terrorize him right back. It doesn't take longer than 5-10 min and, if done properly, won't likely need repeated. Needs a lightweight rod like a switch of some kind and then you just treat him like he treats you...lie in wait for him to relax and then give him a quick whack on the fluffy feathers. Should make him jump a mile. Wait a bit longer and let him get relaxed again...then reach over and do it again. It doesn't have to be hard, just quick and a big surprise. At feeding time that day, keep pecking him on the back or head with that switch until he leaves the area. Walk toward him and make him give you space...keep harassing him so that he's looking over his shoulder for you at all times.

Every time you walk in that coop after that, he should be giving you a wide berth..if he does not, stamp the ground in his direction. It should make him hop and run off a little. If it does not, repeat lesson number one. Have a little fun with it..hide around a corner and surprise him with a swattem's on the fluffy butt...not hard, mind you, but hard enough to surprise him and make him jumpy. Keep him running, if he runs off, by tapping him on the back and butt lightly and repeatedly.

Then, you shouldn't need the roo stick any more...but keep it handy to have fun with when you are out in the coop and want some entertainment. Sit down and let them start eating...then reach over and tap him with that stick. See what happens....

The best defense in this life is a good offense.

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

He can be trained, most likely, if your hubs wants to keep him. Training is easy and kinda fun, especially if he's already terrorized you...you get to flip that coin and terrorize him right back. It doesn't take longer than 5-10 min and, if done properly, won't likely need repeated. Needs a lightweight rod like a switch of some kind and then you just treat him like he treats you...lie in wait for him to relax and then give him a quick whack on the fluffy feathers. Should make him jump a mile. Wait a bit longer and let him get relaxed again...then reach over and do it again. It doesn't have to be hard, just quick and a big surprise. At feeding time that day, keep pecking him on the back or head with that switch until he leaves the area. Walk toward him and make him give you space...keep harassing him so that he's looking over his shoulder for you at all times.

Every time you walk in that coop after that, he should be giving you a wide berth..if he does not, stamp the ground in his direction. It should make him hop and run off a little. If it does not, repeat lesson number one. Have a little fun with it..hide around a corner and surprise him with a swattem's on the fluffy butt...not hard, mind you, but hard enough to surprise him and make him jumpy. Keep him running, if he runs off, by tapping him on the back and butt lightly and repeatedly.

Then, you shouldn't need the roo stick any more...but keep it handy to have fun with when you are out in the coop and want some entertainment. Sit down and let them start eating...then reach over and tap him with that stick. See what happens....

The best defense in this life is a good offense.

And the best offense is culling the rooster, so you don't have to watch your back with his sons. You can train the behavior out of him, but not the genes.

 

[kerrynnchicken]

I just traded my rooster. He was very beautiful rooster but he kept attacking my daughter and I couldn't risk having such a mean rooster. He was very tame and would eat out of your hand but soon as you turned your back he would start kicking. The last draw for me was he jumped over a chair to kick my daughter, who was sitting with me, he scratched her eyelid and I knew next time might be much worse. So your safety is #1!!! I vote get rid of him before you or someone else gets hurt and get you a nice rooster!!!

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

I just traded my rooster. He was very beautiful rooster but he kept attacking my daughter and I couldn't risk having such a mean rooster. He was very tame and would eat out of your hand but soon as you turned your back he would start kicking. The last draw for me was he jumped over a chair to kick my daughter, who was sitting with me, he scratched her eyelid and I knew next time might be much worse. So your safety is #1!!! I vote get rid of him before you or someone else gets hurt and get you a nice rooster!!!

I have a good friend who has a scar next to his eye from a rooster attack when he was five years old. He's very lucky he didn't lose his eye. Good for you for protecting your daughter.

 

[sepaditty1]

It's like so many others have said...why let a bad rooster keep you from enjoying your flock? Especially when there are so many little sweethearts out there.

 

[Beekissed]

And the best offense is culling the rooster, so you don't have to watch your back with his sons. You can train the behavior out of him, but not the genes.

I've got news for you...there are no truly "bad" roosters...maybe some game roosters would qualify for that label, but that's an easy fix..don't get roosters of that breed. At least, in the past 37 yrs of having roosters of several different breeds I've never met a "bad" one. It's a male animal that is acting on pure instinct and some have more instinctive behavior than others but they are not "bad", merely being a rooster. It's sort of like the Cesar Milan theory...it's not really the animal because they are just doing what animals do, instinctively...it's the human's perception of the animal's behavior that dictates how they react to it and how they treat the animal often results in the behaviors they receive from him.

Now, you can keep killing off roosters until you get one that has a low testosterone, low instinctual male characteristics but he won't be real brave out on range and he won't be your most active breeder...so essentially you are systematically breeding the most hen-like roosters into the gene pool. A sort of neutering of the male chicken over time, which makes you feel comfortable and safe to have a big, soft mush kitten in your flock but it doesn't do much for the world of poultry. People who think of poultry and flocks in terms of years and decades take these things into consideration a little more than those who don't think about chickens much at all except as pets who lay eggs.

Killing off any rooster you feel is being too "roosterish" is a knee jerk reaction to an animal that is 2 ft. tall and has no teeth~spurs are easily and painlessly removed. Children have been around roosters since time began and can be taught to handle them with confidence if the parent does the same.

I equate that with the family dog that jumps up on people..those sharp claws can easily wound a child's eyes, but do you see anyone getting rid of the dog if they can't teach it to stop jumping? Nope. You can use the same reasoning, though...there are many dogs out there that don't jump up, so just kill the one you have and get one that doesn't jump up on people. Easy fix, isn't it?

Or...you could simply teach the animal to refrain from his natural behavior of greeting humans with his feet. Like you can teach a rooster to refrain from his instinctive behavior when around humans. It takes all of 10 min. to school a rooster...about the same time it takes to kill him and process him, but with much less labor involved. Actually, some roosters only take mere seconds to school and then you need not worry again, depending upon his ability to learn. If I couldn't train a rooster after giving a good ol' college try, then I might consider eliminating him from the flock social structure...but I've not had to do that yet.

I know that each will handle a problem like they handle most problems in life. Most nowadays go for the easy fix, but it's a problem that will keep coming around with each consecutive rooster you get...how many roosters must die until you get one that won't make you afraid? I'm not against killing chickens..I do it all the time, but I've never killed one simply because I feared him. There is a root cause for most every problem, so it's always best to handle the root cause instead of the symptoms of the cause. If not, you'll be treating symptoms all your life when you could just have a cure.

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

I've got news for you...there are no truly "bad" roosters...maybe some game roosters would qualify for that label, but that's an easy fix..don't get roosters of that breed. At least, in the past 37 yrs of having roosters of several different breeds I've never met a "bad" one. It's a male animal that is acting on pure instinct and some have more instinctive behavior than others but they are not "bad", merely being a rooster. It's sort of like the Cesar Milan theory...it's not really the animal because they are just doing what animals do, instinctively...it's the human's perception of the animal's behavior that dictates how they react to it and how they treat the animal often results in the behaviors they receive from him.

Now, you can keep killing off roosters until you get one that has a low testosterone, low instinctual male characteristics but he won't be real brave out on range and he won't be your most active breeder...so essentially you are systematically breeding the most hen-like roosters into the gene pool. A sort of neutering of the male chicken over time, which makes you feel comfortable and safe to have a big, soft mush kitten in your flock but it doesn't do much for the world of poultry. People who think of poultry and flocks in terms of years and decades take these things into consideration a little more than those who don't think about chickens much at all except as pets who lay eggs.

Killing off any rooster you feel is being too "roosterish" is a knee jerk reaction to an animal that is 2 ft. tall and has no teeth~spurs are easily and painlessly removed. Children have been around roosters since time began and can be taught to handle them with confidence if the parent does the same.

I equate that with the family dog that jumps up on people..those sharp claws can easily wound a child's eyes, but do you see anyone getting rid of the dog if they can't teach it to stop jumping? Nope. You can use the same reasoning, though...there are many dogs out there that don't jump up, so just kill the one you have and get one that doesn't jump up on people. Easy fix, isn't it?

Or...you could simply teach the animal to refrain from his natural behavior of greeting humans with his feet. Like you can teach a rooster to refrain from his instinctive behavior when around humans. It takes all of 10 min. to school a rooster...about the same time it takes to kill him and process him, but with much less labor involved. Actually, some roosters only take mere seconds to school and then you need not worry again, depending upon his ability to learn. If I couldn't train a rooster after giving a good ol' college try, then I might consider eliminating him from the flock social structure...but I've not had to do that yet.

I know that each will handle a problem like they handle most problems in life. Most nowadays go for the easy fix, but it's a problem that will keep coming around with each consecutive rooster you get...how many roosters must die until you get one that won't make you afraid? I'm not against killing chickens..I do it all the time, but I've never killed one simply because I feared him. There is a root cause for most every problem, so it's always best to handle the root cause instead of the symptoms of the cause. If not, you'll be treating symptoms all your life when you could just have a cure.

I simply am not going to get into this with you. Those of use who don't tolerate aggression in our flocks have roosters that still act like roosters, and still protect their flocks. We will have to agree to disagree.