Banning fur...

[Runt Of The Litter]

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Not to mention the number of people that go nuts over animal treatment and could give a rat's butt about the way humans regard life.......... of other humans.

one such person reporting in,sir.

some people just have different priorities,sometimes its cultural-like how the cow is sacred in india and treated better than alot of people who live there,but then in another part of the world,their treatment is inhumane.
though it might seem like a lot of people hold animals in a higher regard,this tends to be because of natural caring instincts to protect the vulnerable,the majority of people in the world are treated far,far better than animals because non human animals are seen as being lower on the so called 'food chain'.


am personaly as devoid of any connection,relation or empathy for humans as one can go,but have all that to extreme lengths for animals,and vulnerable groups of human [disabled,babies and young children, elderly,people suffering from real poverty...].

now with furr,why is it honestly needed when there are other materials that can be used,we are not neanderthals,we are a complex species and society which doesnt need to put the furr of another animal
on our back when we have so much choice available to us today.

am not against it when the animal has had a good free life,and the furr is surplus-with everything useable being used and not wasted,as opposed to the animal being battery farmed purely for their furr with a lower quality of life.
am very against electrocution as a euthanasia method [most commonly used with mink] and also the chinese furr market-shuddering and feeling sick just at the thought of it.


the least people can do when they are sacrificing an animals life is use everything or dont do it at all.
am surprised china hasnt developed a human meat/skin industry judging on their human rights records with prisoners.

 

[goldtopper]

Interesting view, not at all one that I agree with, but just the same.
It doesn't compute at all in my head that humankind should be placed below animal life, with the usual caveats of elderly, infirm, etc.(I'll never understand assigning a hierarchy, I mean, they're just people too, right?)
Being passionate is one thing, but it can become close to sociopathic.

 

[chickened]

Mink oil? Most fur suppliers find markets for the carcasses. Until animals can speak we really will never know what they REALLY think.

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[KenK]

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There is nothing at all "natural" about protecting the vulnerable. It is a taught behavior. In nature the vulnerable is seen as dinner.

 

[chickened]

Watch a starving deer beat the crap out of her fawn for food, this is not Bambi it is a wild animal surviving.
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There is nothing at all "natural" about protecting the vulnerable. It is a taught behavior. In nature the vulnerable is seen as dinner.

 

[frostbite]

Interesting thread.

I'm for humane slaughter when needed. For instance, I'd rather see humane slaughter of unwanted horses, than having them die a slow death of starvation and neglect, which is what tends to happen when slaughter is banned. I love the work that Dr. Temple Grandin has done in designing slaughter houses to be humane from an animal's perspective. Her books are a great read, I recommend "Animals in Translation".

There is a reason to use animal furs to keep warm, it works much better in severe cold climates for people that are outside a lot. Synthetic alternatives are not as effective at 0-40 below. But I can understand not wanting people to wear fur in Hollywood. The poor dears would surely overheat.

 

[debilorrah]

Its the banning of wool that has me shaking my head. I sell angora. I guess not to anyone in Hollywood!!!

 

[KenK]

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I looked up the story this morning; I think you may have your facts wrong. Strong emphasis on "think".
I don't doubt that they will try for wool next. It seems the Mayor, City Council, and a large proportion of the citizenry are hardcore animal rights people.

 

[KenK]

I would also like to point out that the animal rights activists don't intend to stop with fur and commercially raised chickens and beef, pork, etc. They think it is wrong for us to keep poultry subjugated for whatever reasons that we keep them.

 

[conny63malies]

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There is nothing at all "natural" about protecting the vulnerable. It is a taught behavior. In nature the vulnerable is seen as dinner.

But what about musk oxen and elephant herds surrounding their youngs when they sense danger. Or a whole her of cape buffalos going after a lion that attacked a buffalo.