Banning Kids In Restaurants...

[justuschickens59]

Yep, I pick up stray dogs and cats. Yep, my 3 dogs definitely have personalities and since my kids are grown and gone and out on their own, my dogs have become my "children." I'll guarantee you one thing - I could take my three dogs to a fancy restaurant and their behavior and manners would be better than some people's children.

 

[Avalon1984]

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Gritty, I respectfully disagree with you here on a SMALL point. Nope, not my job to raise/discipline someone else's child UNLESS the parent refuse and it is directly impacting me/something that belongs to me.
I was at a poultry show in January where I was showing my Calls. Wild kid was running amuck in this place and EVERYONE was telling him to stop it, calm down, stop running, etc. He kept sticking his hands through the bars of my duck cages and I asked him POLITELY twice to stop-he was making them nervous. Third time, I didn't ask him to stop, I TOLD him to stop. Fourth time, I took him by the arm and made him show me where his parent were. I approached these people and told them to either control their child or be prepared to write me a LARGE check if something happened to one or more of my birds from this kid continuously bothering my birds. Didn't see the kid again all day. Just FYI-this kid was 10 years old-should have known better at that age.
Mess with the bull-you get the horns.

In a situation like that I feel like you were 110% in the right. I am very protective of my animals and I will speak of to ANYONE or anything that impacts them in a negative way. I am their voice.

Hasn’t it also come to a point where if a kid is injured due to your animal (horse in my case)/property you can be held liable? I know our neighbor is a cop and he said that even though we have “No trespassing” signs all over the place, if kids were to break into our barn and fall off the hay loft we would be liable since our barn represents an “attractive risk”. I cannot remember if that was the term he used but that is what it meant, just like the neighbors covered up pool could be such a risk, so are our horses. I just don’t feel like locking up my barn or paddocks on my property because somebody might fall out of my hayloft after trespassing onto our property without permission. I apologize if that was a bit off topic but it did come to my mind when I read your story. Thank Goodness the ducks didn’t bite the kid

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Thats all a matter of what state you are in for you to be charged with something... But you can be sued for any reason by anyone in civil court. Its just a matter of how a jury sees it.

 

[ChickieBooBoo]

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I don't agree with this, because then they are assuming that all under 6 year old kids act that way. If a kid is making too much noise and behaving stupidly then just politly asking the family to leave would be a better choice IMO

 

[easttxchick]

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In a situation like that I feel like you were 110% in the right. I am very protective of my animals and I will speak of to ANYONE or anything that impacts them in a negative way. I am their voice.

Hasn’t it also come to a point where if a kid is injured due to your animal (horse in my case)/property you can be held liable? I know our neighbor is a cop and he said that even though we have “No trespassing” signs all over the place, if kids were to break into our barn and fall off the hay loft we would be liable since our barn represents an “attractive risk”. I cannot remember if that was the term he used but that is what it meant, just like the neighbors covered up pool could be such a risk, so are our horses. I just don’t feel like locking up my barn or paddocks on my property because somebody might fall out of my hayloft after trespassing onto our property without permission. I apologize if that was a bit off topic but it did come to my mind when I read your story. Thank Goodness the ducks didn’t bite the kid

Yep, hence the reason we have ALL of our property covered by PIP insurance-necessary in case some fool is trespassing on my property on a 4-wheeler or something and gets injured WHILE trespassing on my property.
As far as it being a good thing the ducks didn't bit the kid, I was kinda sorry they didn't have fangs!
Sorry, HarlansHollow for the highjack of your thread!

 

[HHandbasket]

I've been to restaurants in my lifetime wherein I've experienced bad kids not being watched by their parents. A few years ago, we were on our way to a friend's house for Thanksgiving dinner, and there was a bad storm that morning & it took out the bridge on the way to our friend's house. So, we went to an open restaurant for dinner, since I hadn't prepared anything. There were three little girls that were running around the restaurant, going up to the buffet and sticking their hands in the food. Everytime they did, I went up, picked up the dish, and took it back to the kitchen, told the staff that there were children running around the buffet unsupervised, sticking their hands in ALL the food. Nobody even know whose kids they were. The staff got upset and was asking around for the parents, but nobody seemed to know where these children came from. One of the little girls followed me back to my table and grabbed my glass and took a drink of my water! I snatched it back outta her hand, looked her square in the eye, and said, "Where the HELL are your parents?" (She was maybe 5-6...I normally don't talk that way to kids, but we're going on 20 minutes now with misbehaved kids and no apparent adults that claimed them.) Just as I said that, a very well-dressed man in a nice, obviously very expensive pinstriped suit, came up to me and said, "Hey, lady, watch the way you're talking to my kid!" I told him, "Oh, is that YOURS? We were just about to call the police because they've been over here taking food from the buffet with their filthy hands for about half an hour, and nobody in the restaurant seemed to know whose little brats they were. The waitresses have been asking around for over 20 minutes for the parents, but they didn't seem to have any that cared enough to know where those kids were, what they were doing, or how much they were disrupting the restaurant."

The dad shot me a dirty look, then his ugly wart-faced wife came up to me and said, "Don't you talk to my husband like that!" I looked HER square in the eye and told her what her child had been doing, then I purposefully softened my face and said, "Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed??" She got in my face, and when she did, the answer became clear... I COULD SMELL THE BROWN LIQUOR JUST OOZING OUT OF HER PORES!

I turned and looked at the restaurant manager and said, "Call the cops. These people are drunk & shouldn't drive away with these children in the car."

We left without finishing our meal. I don't know what happened after that, but the restaurant manager was on the phone calling SOMEBODY when we walked out.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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No they have decided or believe that they are loosing more money because of the bad kids being there than they believe they will lose by not letting any kids in.

 

[ashleylancaster]

I Myself Am A Mom Of Three Ages 5,6 And 8. I Disagree With Banning All Children Just Because Of Their Age. Just Because 1 Familey Has Kids That Run Around Screaming And The Parents Do Nothing To Control Them Doesnt Mean That The Next Family Is Going To Have The Same Type Of Kids.
My Kids Are Very Well Mannered Even At The Nice Resturants. They Know The Are There To Eat And Not To Play. Some Of My Kids Favorite Places To Eat Are Nice Resturants.
Maybe They Should Put A Sign At The Front-- No Shoes-no Shirt-no Kids Running Ramped Other Wise No Service. If The Kids Are Running Around They Should Go To The Parents And Be Asked To Leave If They Cant Get Their Own Kids Under Control.
We Went To A Restaurant The Other Night And Had More Annoyance From A Couple Of Adults Sitting Behind Us While My Kids Were Sitting There Being More Behaved Then Some Of The Teens And Other Adults That Are Going To These So Called Up Scale Resaurants That Dont Care Enough About Other People To Just Ask The People With The Unruley Kids To Please Leave.
And If The Have Problems With The Baby That Is Crying Why Dont They Have A Problem With The Adults Who Talk Loudly On Their Phone At The Table Or The Adult That Think The Have To Yell Just So The Person Sitting Across The Table Can Hear Them.

 

[pbjmaker]

Very interesting thread so far. My husband, a friend and I all went out to eat at a "family friendly" pizza place the other day. I had never been there and I noted things have changed a lot since my kids were "young" ( they are 17,19,21 now) The biggest issue I had was that in the "family" section they had a flat screen TV at every table tuned to cartoons. SERIOUSLY? I felt that was wrong on so many levels. If the only way you can control your kids is to plop them in front of a TV then you need parenting classes.

We got seated of course next to a young couple with a newborn baby < 6months They also had a grandparent along. All fine and good - it is a family pizza place. Well within 5 minutes that baby started screaming bloody murder. I felt bad for the couple, they were trying to feed it, bounce it, burp it, no luck. We ended up asking to move - I just do not understand why one of the three adults didn't get up and take the baby outside until it calmed down. I can deal with kids and noise and expect it to a certain extent - but when they are that upset and screaming, common sense says remove them from the scene.

Trust me - I understand "ill-mannered" kids and they are not always the fault of the parent. MY youngest was a TERROR, she had a lot of issues as a child and it took years of consistent and creative discipline before she was really fit for public. We did not ever take her to fancy restaurants because we knew she couldn't handle it, but to teach her/ train her up we did have to take her and let her experience a variety of places.

She is a well behaved teen and a hard worker now.

I do feel a better way for this restaurant to go would be to say that they will ask you to leave if your "party" becomes rowdy - that gives them an out for obnoxious adults too

 

[BayouPoules]

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That's because you spent more time training your dogs then they did their children,..