Barnevelder anyone lets see them?

[Katy]

I'm not saying your birds aren't sweet birds, so there's no reason to insult my RIRs. I've got lots of different breeds because there's something I like about all of them. I just don't think they should be classified in the same group of dark egg layers as Welsummers and Marans when their eggs aren't nearly as dark. I've got my Marans for the same reason you have your Barnevelders.....I love how they look and their personalities. I've got my RIRs because I love their deep dark red color. Here's their eggs from yesterday....oh and it wasn't taken in the dark either. They aren't nearly as dark as my Marans eggs, but then they aren't classified as dark egg layers either.

 

[Bluehenhatchery.com]

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Perhaps your correct about their clasification but the birds that are in the Netherlands lay welsummer color eggs and your RIR are laying nice eggs. I just always see RIR looking really beat up and rough and the roosters have a mean streak they never seem to look healthy perhaps thats just the birds I have seen I am sure Yours a great but for me Barnevelders are the stuff. forgive me If I am coming to the defence of Barnevelders I started this thread because I love the Birds and did not expect that they would come under atack perhaps I should of picked a diferent title so People would understand this was not set upto be a place to pick them apart. If you feel the urge to insult someones egg color or feather color go kick a puppy or somthing leave the Barnevelders alone.

 

[Katy]

I think you need to be bit less defensive when people comment about your birds..whether it's their feather color or the egg color. I think a good Barnevelder is a beautiful bird.....I never said they weren't. I love the double lacing on them.

This is a great place to get honest feedback about our birds.

 

[Bluehenhatchery.com]

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I dont think I do need to be "less defensive" as you say. When people get on thread with the goal only to be insulting I will be defensive dont think that I am only adressing you with this complaint because you are not the first and this is not the only time I have felt like I needed to defend a bird. If you dont like someones birds keep it to your self or at least offer genetic help dont just be critical or " honest feed back" as you say. Im sure your mother told you if you dont have anything good to say dont say it all. If you have an issue with somthing someone has said or pictures they have put up perhaps you should adress them in a PV. But again unless you have a solution what good are your atacks?

 

[Katy]

I didn't attack your birds. All I said was that the eggs were not very dark for what is classified as a dark egg-layer and that my RIRs lay darker. When you post pictures in an open forum you open yourself up to hearing opinions that you may not like....you are going to get both good and bad feedback. Would you rather people were not honest with you and oohed and aahed when maybe they aren't that impressed?

 

[Bluehenhatchery.com]

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nope i would just rather they not say anything at all. What I would like people like your to do when they put the negitive 2 cents in to also provide solutions to problem. You think you are being so helpful by saying that the eggs are not dark enough. What would you do about it what is your solution to the problem your not helping anyone lets be honest. This is what you really said "Not trying to offend but those are not very dark for what's supposed to be a dark egg..... my RIR's lay that dark of an egg." again your are not the only one that offers no help only negitive comments Its like when 1 starts 2 or 3 jump in you people must of been bullys in school. Who do you think your helping?

 

[Katy]

Bluehenhatchery.com :

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nope i would just rather they not say anything at all. What I would like people like your to do when they put the negitive 2 cents in to also provide solutions to problem. You think you are being so helpful by saying that the eggs are not dark enough. What would you do about it what is your solution to the problem your not helping anyone lets be honest.

I guess my solution to the problem would be to start with birds from a breeder, not a hatchery that gets it's hatching eggs from the same place as Ideal hatchery does. You can get nice birds from hatcheries that are pretty and lay you lots of eggs, but most of the time they aren't breeder quality and it takes years of selective breeding to get them to that point. Importation isn't an option anymore unless you have lots of bucks and time to spend on all the red tape so we unfortunately have to go with what we've got in the US.​

 

[Bluehenhatchery.com]

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nope i would just rather they not say anything at all. What I would like people like your to do when they put the negitive 2 cents in to also provide solutions to problem. You think you are being so helpful by saying that the eggs are not dark enough. What would you do about it what is your solution to the problem your not helping anyone lets be honest.

I guess my solution to the problem would be to start with birds from a breeder, not a hatchery that gets it's hatching eggs from the same place as Ideal hatchery does. You can get nice birds from hatcheries that are pretty and lay you lots of eggs, but most of the time they aren't breeder quality and it takes years of selective breeding to get them to that point. Importation isn't an option anymore unless you have lots of bucks and time to spend on all the red tape so we unfortunately have to go with what we've got in the US.

Any suggestions on where to get these breeder birds from? Show me that they are as good or are better than the birds I already have. Some of the eggs I have pictured are from a guy who claims that his birds are from the netherlands his birds look very differrent than mine but the eggs dont look any darker. Also you make it sound like I did somthing stupid buying my birds from darkeggs.com tell me how I would of known where they get there birds from?

 

[amazondoc]

Bluehenhatchery.com :

[ I would wrather have a barnevelder than a RIR an day of the week.

I agree with you there.

I think everyone knows they are not the best dark egg layers because what we have in the country just isnt that dark.

Right. That's what I said in the first place. And as I said before, that's why I think barnies will never be a big craze like the Marans. The barnie eggs just aren't all that dark.

As for getting breeder's birds -- start by joining the barnevelder yahoogroups list. You'll learn a lot there, and you'll meet dedicated breeders who want to work together to improve the breed.​

 

[Katy]

Bluehenhatchery.com :

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I guess my solution to the problem would be to start with birds from a breeder, not a hatchery that gets it's hatching eggs from the same place as Ideal hatchery does. You can get nice birds from hatcheries that are pretty and lay you lots of eggs, but most of the time they aren't breeder quality and it takes years of selective breeding to get them to that point. Importation isn't an option anymore unless you have lots of bucks and time to spend on all the red tape so we unfortunately have to go with what we've got in the US.

Any suggestions on where to get these breeder birds from? Show me that they are as good or are better than the birds I already have. Some of the eggs I have pictured are from a guy who claims that his birds are from the netherlands his birds look very differrent than mine but the eggs dont look any darker. Also you make it sound like I did somthing stupid buying my birds from darkeggs.com tell me how I would of known where they get there birds from?​

It's hard to know where to get good stock from since anyone can say anything about where they got their stock from. Joining forums that are aimed towards the breeds you like are a good place to start if you haven't done that already. Asking lots of questions about where they got their stock whether it's an individual or a hatchery.