Belgian Mal owners, gas of death

[moomoodiddy]

Well I don't know that grains, including corn, are particularly bad for dogs. Making it the bulk of their diet is however, hell on their digestive tracts, your lawn, and likely their coats will suffer quickly.

Corn in excess is generally poor nutrition for all species, the high sugar supports dangerous inflammatory processes in equines especially. If you want to fault my calling that a filler you can, but it's an incredibly poor main ingredient.

As for the Loyall feeds, check their label. Corn is a listed ingredient, but not the primary ingredient. Much better food. I didn't say feed no grains. I suggested a higher quality food with more meat based ingredient percentage. So that's clearly a good fit.

I don't consider this to be hipster nonsense. Just a sound, practical, reasonable opinion.
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Chicken by product meal could literally just mean ground up beaks

 

[MinervaELS]

Chicken by product meal could literally just mean ground up beaks

This isn't true. AAFCO has a strict definition of what by-product consists of and companies cannot label something else as by-product if it doesn't meet the definition. As I recall it is specifically the cleaned carcasses and organs after butchering and processing, but I can post the definition when I get back to my computer.

 

[OF65]

AAFCO has rules for its pocketbook! From now on you are going to see/hear about more cats and dogs with problems. By products, chicken fat.... I will try not to totally gross you out... but these are things you should know!!
Rendered products are extremely big business! All package dog and cat food come from rendered products. Rendered, poultry remains from processing plants, dead poultry from commercial growers , dead cows from farms,pets put down by veterinarians are all rendered and cooked into pet food. The fat is too much for pet food so it is rendered further and now is being put into human food. The trashy fats is sold as yellow grease for mechanical use.
This is why there are recalls because of phenobarbital.

 

[Lavkid]

UPDATE: So the vet says nothing is wrong with him. Insides are good and the gas is from the change in diet. His flora is off so probiotics will be needed to help. But ill still look for a different food and switch him over gradually later on.
But yes, his no drive personality is actually who he is. Pretty lazy boy, has spurts of play and some treat drive but over all a relaxing chill kind of guy.

 

[Ruralhideaway]

UPDATE: So the vet says nothing is wrong with him. Insides are good and the gas is from the change in diet. His flora is off so probiotics will be needed to help. But ill still look for a different food and switch him over gradually later on.
But yes, his no drive personality is actually who he is. Pretty lazy boy, has spurts of play and some treat drive but over all a relaxing chill kind of guy.

Good news, keep us posted!

 

[MROO]

I changed everyone to a Lamb and Rice formula food to combat skin allergies in my older Border Collie - and was surprised that it cut down on the puppy's gas, too. It's worth a try!
I just saw your probiotics note so I came back to edit this - Instead of adding pills, try yogurt. It's cheaper and, according to "the experts" (whoever they are!) it's much more effective. My pup gets some frozen in her Kong - and loves it!

 

[dainerra]

just be careful with yogurt. dogs are lactose intolerant and more than the occasional tablespoon will leave you with a really gassy dog

 

[moomoodiddy]

just be careful with yogurt. dogs are lactose intolerant and more than the occasional tablespoon will leave you with a really gassy dog

yea would definitely not do yogurt for probiotics. You can do pumpkin or a powder