It's a complicated deceitful mess sometimes. From my understanding most of the certification programs aren't really effective. There are some honest sources, and even partially organic may be better? Things are so far gone it's hard to grasp sometimes. I dunno.I have fed organic feed to my chickens along with the standard commercial feeds and the chickens don't seem to have a preference. Calling something organic just makes the company a heck of a lot more money in the long run.