Angie, I think if you were closer, I'd give you Meg to work with, though I know you have a closed flock. If you dont get what you want from this batch, I'll be happy to send you another set. I was holding Meg yesterday for Tom to check her feet (she gets bumblefoot alot, unfortunately) and she is just the heaviest thing! That girl looks very close to pure Orpington....the exhibition size Buff mama she came from sure influenced her size!