Black Copper Marans discussion thread

@Wynette

Thanks for the feedback so far!
I definitely going to try to get better pictures today. The lighting in their coop changes every hour so I'll try a few different times today.

His breast actually is pretty much solid black if I remember correctly. I'll get a pic of that too as my inexperience could be talking here. ;)

Could a droopy comb come from frostbite? I've never experienced that outcome with any often chickens but the lady did day he had a little frostbite over winter.

By ugly feet, I mean they are kind of fat and not straight and clean looking like every other chicken I've had. I suspected it could be age related as I wasn't sure if I should believe this guy is only 1.5 years old but my oldest chickens still have pristine feet soI don't know. I'll get a pic of that too.

You could be right about the supposed tail accident. He is the sire of the white tail roo though and the family did think they would keep him so I didn't think they would lie under those circumstances.
We'll see in a few weeks though!

Both the hens are solid black with a beautiful amount of copper in the hackles. I chose 5 point combs and the healthiest looking ones but I did overlook that one of them can't close her beak all the way. It has a tiny bit of overlap. Her hackles are also darker so I'm marking her as a future cull as well.
It was hard to choose when they were all running around and panting and most had pale combs at the time but this trio did not.

Oh, by grey, I mean they are a lighter shade and I wasn't sure if they were dark enough to be called slate... Maybe a better lighting picture will help determine that.

I will look at his feet again. I didn't notice raised scales but it's hard to see details when the chickens are trying to get away from you. :)
 
If they were breeding only for dark eggs, then the tail thing probably is just from other birds (or an alpha cock bird) plucking them out, I'd reckon.

If the legs are almost a whitish color, that's not good, and noted to be an indicator of the wheaten influence (i.e., someone somewhere along the line used wheaten in their black copper breeding program to darken the egg color). The W. Jeane line is known to have wheaten in it. Some think this is a horribly bad thing, and it most definitely IS, given all that we're currently trying to work OUT of the black copper. However, done properly (I have never done so, so have no idea what "properly" would be), I would think the cross would be helpful.

No, droopy comb wouldn't be caused from frostbite. Some just have floppy combs becuase it's not thick enough at the base to hold up such a honkin' big comb. I have a black cockerel that has pretty nice conformation, but he's got a floppy comb. It's VERY floppy and would be a DQ in the show pen. I have him in with a lovely solid blue pullet who happens to have quite a small comb; I'm breeding them more out of curiosity than anything, to see if the male's comb issue is passed along. If it's drooped past the point of where it begins to fall over, it would be a DQ.
 
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Okay, his feet don't look as bad as I remember. Or maybe they improved over night?
I just thought of something...
His old coop has a concrete floor with sand. I don't know how deep the sand is, but maybe he was having swelling from jumping down from his roost every morning? Right now he is roosting 1 foot above the ground over grass.
He is a very heavy bird. Can't imagine jumping down to a hard surface felt very good.

Are lighter legs easier to deal with than halos and white tails? I'm just hoping I made the better choice. :)
And since he is definitely a future cull, maybe I'll set a few dozen eggs from him and grow them out before retiring him. If a lot of problems pop up he will just be culled all the sooner. I've got some Bev Davis eggs in the incubator. I hope to get a better rooster out of that. :)

Also, the lighting is darker (shadows and morning light) so the hackles look darker than they should. I'll get more pictures after work.
 
I am a newb but I like that roo. Feet may be a little light in color and feathering. One of the hens appears to have some white on her ear lobe. I like the build of the roo and the hens tho!
 
I am a newb but I like that roo. Feet may be a little light in color and feathering. One of the hens appears to have some white on her ear lobe. I like the build of the roo and the hens tho!


Yay! Thanks!
I was having all sorts of worries once I got them home and was thinking oh did I just waste $75 to a really expensive dinner..
I'm glad there are not as many faults as I was afraid of.
I don't plan to show but I do want to be proud of my birds and their offspring. Do you guys think the comb flops enough to be a DQ?

I love their weight and body shape as well. I had to put Eno on his crate roost tonight and told him he has a very nice drumstick lol. :)

My biggest worry right now will be how he looks when he finishes his molt. There are feathers everywhere in quarantine!
 
Quick question! I have 2 blue/black copper marans chicks. They're about 3 weeks old, and one is feathering in with what looks like blue down on the chest while the other still has the cream down on the chest. Since I'm a total rookie with marans, i'm guessing I have one black and one blue? or is this just the beginning of them feathering in and it's all going to completely change 4x in the next few months.
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Does anyone want to critique this young pair for me? The guy said they're 20 weeks old. The little boy seems like he has an abundance of copper coloring in his chest and neither one looks like they have very much shank feathers. What do ya'll think? Thanks







 

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