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This is my 3rd winter raising chickens. Every year I get new chicks an change around the flock. Different breeds slightly different numbers etc. Every year trying to tweak and improve on the previous year.
Despite the changes, each year at various times, I get chickens that keel over dead. Fine one day, dead the next. A few have clearly been struggling to lay. You find them in the nest box straining, then later still there, straining, the next day, usually dead, often in the nest box or just outside of it. I probably lose 2 chickens a year out of 18. No diseases, no parasites, no predator deaths and the two deaths often months apart.
6 weeks back, I had 18 hens. 9 Americaunas, 8 Leghorns, 1 mystery hen, the whole flock is about 9 months old. I noticed I was getting one Americauna egg with blood on it. It wasn't a lot. It wasn't every day. I didn't think much of it. Then 4 weeks later I noticed one of the Leghorns had a bloody vent and was *struggling* to lay. She was in the nest all day, standing, struggling. I figured she was going to die, like the others had in the past. Again, it happens. I have stopped worrying over it. That night I went to check the coop, and there was a dead hen. Not the Leghorn, but an Americauna. Been dead for hours. Leghorn was still struggling. Next morning Leghorn was dead, just barely.
That's odd. Never been issues with two at once before. Maybe coincidence?
This week we were away for the past 5 days out of state. I can't say for sure what happened with any of the chickens. I had someone collecting eggs. Almost every day, for those 5 days there was a bloody Americauna egg.
Today I collect the eggs as soon as I get home and I notice the older bloody eggs collected during the week, plus a *really* bloody Leghorn egg from today. Also, the Leghorn has a very bloody vent.
So I come in, look for help here, read about Prolapsed vents and decide I have two chickens that need a bath to start with. So I go down to grab them, check for eggs. One bloody Americauna egg. When I go in the coop to grab the two chickens, I find the Americauna dead. She laid within the last 10 min, stepped out of the nest box and fell dead.
I took the Leghorn and gave her a bath and cleaned her up. There was a lot of blood clotted all over, but no noticeable damage and nothing hanging out. There was still blood inside the vent.
A friend came over and dissected the Americauna. Big, healthy, hen. Medium sized eggs. In general, perfect health. Her vent showed clear pecking problems, but no sign of prolapse. Despite laying an egg just before dying, she had a "burst" egg just inside the vent. No real sign of the yolk, though I found one in the pan afterwards, so it might have slipped out when we were shifting her around. Otherwise there was a clear path of yolks down the tract getting smaller as they went. No obvious sign of death.
She did not show any recent signs of pecking damage other than the vent. Old pecking issues on her lower back, mostly healed over. Would other hens pecking at her vent kill her?
My friend went to look at the Leghorn, still wet from her bath. She had pooped and was clearly struggling to poop again. She showed definite sign of prolapse when straining to poop. After she stops trying, she pulls it back in.
I have her under a heat lamp drying. I've read to hold her back from food for a day or so, to stress her and cause her to stop laying for a while. Aside from another bath which might help clear up any pooping blockage, what else would you recommend?
Lastly I am now majorly concerned. This makes 4 chickens out of 18 that have cropped up with similar problems over the last 6 weeks. Three have passed away. Any thoughts about what might be causing this or contributing to it?
There have been no overly large eggs laid by anyone in recent weeks.
Brokk...
Despite the changes, each year at various times, I get chickens that keel over dead. Fine one day, dead the next. A few have clearly been struggling to lay. You find them in the nest box straining, then later still there, straining, the next day, usually dead, often in the nest box or just outside of it. I probably lose 2 chickens a year out of 18. No diseases, no parasites, no predator deaths and the two deaths often months apart.
6 weeks back, I had 18 hens. 9 Americaunas, 8 Leghorns, 1 mystery hen, the whole flock is about 9 months old. I noticed I was getting one Americauna egg with blood on it. It wasn't a lot. It wasn't every day. I didn't think much of it. Then 4 weeks later I noticed one of the Leghorns had a bloody vent and was *struggling* to lay. She was in the nest all day, standing, struggling. I figured she was going to die, like the others had in the past. Again, it happens. I have stopped worrying over it. That night I went to check the coop, and there was a dead hen. Not the Leghorn, but an Americauna. Been dead for hours. Leghorn was still struggling. Next morning Leghorn was dead, just barely.
That's odd. Never been issues with two at once before. Maybe coincidence?
This week we were away for the past 5 days out of state. I can't say for sure what happened with any of the chickens. I had someone collecting eggs. Almost every day, for those 5 days there was a bloody Americauna egg.
Today I collect the eggs as soon as I get home and I notice the older bloody eggs collected during the week, plus a *really* bloody Leghorn egg from today. Also, the Leghorn has a very bloody vent.
So I come in, look for help here, read about Prolapsed vents and decide I have two chickens that need a bath to start with. So I go down to grab them, check for eggs. One bloody Americauna egg. When I go in the coop to grab the two chickens, I find the Americauna dead. She laid within the last 10 min, stepped out of the nest box and fell dead.
I took the Leghorn and gave her a bath and cleaned her up. There was a lot of blood clotted all over, but no noticeable damage and nothing hanging out. There was still blood inside the vent.
A friend came over and dissected the Americauna. Big, healthy, hen. Medium sized eggs. In general, perfect health. Her vent showed clear pecking problems, but no sign of prolapse. Despite laying an egg just before dying, she had a "burst" egg just inside the vent. No real sign of the yolk, though I found one in the pan afterwards, so it might have slipped out when we were shifting her around. Otherwise there was a clear path of yolks down the tract getting smaller as they went. No obvious sign of death.
She did not show any recent signs of pecking damage other than the vent. Old pecking issues on her lower back, mostly healed over. Would other hens pecking at her vent kill her?
My friend went to look at the Leghorn, still wet from her bath. She had pooped and was clearly struggling to poop again. She showed definite sign of prolapse when straining to poop. After she stops trying, she pulls it back in.
I have her under a heat lamp drying. I've read to hold her back from food for a day or so, to stress her and cause her to stop laying for a while. Aside from another bath which might help clear up any pooping blockage, what else would you recommend?
Lastly I am now majorly concerned. This makes 4 chickens out of 18 that have cropped up with similar problems over the last 6 weeks. Three have passed away. Any thoughts about what might be causing this or contributing to it?
There have been no overly large eggs laid by anyone in recent weeks.
Brokk...