Blue Copper and Splash Copper Marans Discussion

[gilavina]

Here's the colors of copper I like some are a bit lighter than the male at the end, that I believe is a nice middle of the road color to have and what I try to breed for. The lighter color copper birds are ones that have done well to exhibit the color early as well as to produce a nice range of color with fewer mahogany or over melanized birds that I have found so far.







some do not prefer the blended, hackle, but for me, as long as they are not expressing any other Wheaten influences, I do not have a problem test mating with them.



the color I am trying to breed to more consistently, yes, his tail carriage is too high for my liking, but when mated correctly, produces nice birds


Here's some mahogany colors for reference



Mahogany can go even darker than this, but do admit that I love this tone of color. Just have to be careful when moving forward with matings to select birds that are not overmelanized or too dark of copper, before long, you end up with birds not showing enough copper.

 

[Runawaylobster]

Here's the colors of copper I like some are a bit lighter than the male at the end, that I believe is a nice middle of the road color to have and what I try to breed for. The lighter color copper birds are ones that have done well to exhibit the color early as well as to produce a nice range of color with fewer mahogany or over melanized birds that I have found so far.







some do not prefer the blended, hackle, but for me, as long as they are not expressing any other Wheaten influences, I do not have a problem test mating with them.



the color I am trying to breed to more consistently, yes, his tail carriage is too high for my liking, but when mated correctly, produces nice birds


Here's some mahogany colors for reference



Mahogany can go even darker than this, but do admit that I love this tone of color. Just have to be careful when moving forward with matings to select birds that are not overmelanized or too dark of copper, before long, you end up with birds not showing enough copper.

That third pic down is just spectacular, his color is so even. I love it, and i love your blue copper hen at the top too. These pics definitely look like where i would like mine to be. Thank you so much for posting, I see some of my boys looking like your bottom two, they are still only 4 months though so they may yet still get better colors.

 

[gilavina]

That third pic down is just spectacular, his color is so even. I love it, and i love your blue copper hen at the top too. These pics definitely look like where i would like mine to be. Thank you so much for posting, I see some of my boys looking like your bottom two, they are still only 4 months though so they may yet still get better colors.

You're welcome. There is still much work to do, but feel like there is more consistency each year including in the color. The third male is Gigantor when he was just a youngun. I would love to see blue and black coppers with that quality of coloring in all my pens for sure.

 

[sol2go]

My splash copper roo is showing side sprigs. What contributes to that in the background breeding? He is understood to be from a/the Bev Davis line...

 

[snowbird]

My splash copper roo is showing side sprigs. What contributes to that in the background breeding? He is understood to be from a/the Bev Davis line...

The sprig will show up in any line of Marans, We just have to keep culling when we find these DQs

 

[pinkchick]

The sprig will show up in any line of Marans, We just have to keep culling when we find these  DQs

Hi Don!


Do you think it only takes one copy of the gene of sprigs to happen? Or do you think it has to come from each parent?

Thanks!

 

[snowbird]

Hi Don!


Do you think it only takes one copy of the gene of sprigs to happen? Or do you think it has to come from each parent?

Thanks!

Asmundson,who concluded that side-sprigs are due to the interaction of two Dominant autosomal genes which are complementary in this action, so that when both are present either in the Heterozygous or Homozgous condition side-sprigs are produced.

Punnett, was led to believe that side-sprigs were dominant to the absence of side-sprigs. Just want to add that when we single mate and use the females from single mating in a breeding pen it is much easier to pin point where the Sprigs are coming from.

 

[sarjaysar]

Here is my blue copper Maran hen - well what I can get of her!!! She is 12 weeks old

 

[sol2go]

Asmundson,who concluded that side-sprigs are due to the interaction of two Dominant autosomal genes which are complementary in this action, so that when both are present either in the Heterozygous or Homozgous condition side-sprigs are produced.

Punnett, was led to believe that side-sprigs were dominant to the absence of side-sprigs. Just want to add that when we single mate and use the females from single mating in a breeding pen it is much easier to pin point where the Sprigs are coming from.

would a sister of this roo be a bad choice for a breeding pen?
Dark eggs are the goal, but it takes so long to sort through the other issues just to get the basics right.

 

[austyn_stephenson]

I have a question about the Marans! If you breed a Blue Maran rooster to. Black Maran hen will the chicks be Blue Marans? Cause I've seen people get both Blue and Black ones out of a blue maran rooster with black maran hens but would they be considered blue or black?