Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Duane Urch does operate a hatchery in the state of MN. What constitutes a hatchery though?

In the state of MN if I want to legally sell hatching eggs or chicks I now have to be a licensed hatchery which also means I might as well be a NPIP member, because my stock would need to have been flock tested for Salmonella pullorum-typhoid etc. in order to sell anything. This is now required even at swap meets and in order to show birds in MN. They must have health records. I myself raise large fowl and bantams of one breed of chickens and will soon be operating a hatchery in the state of MN.

Now back to the subject of Duane Urch. I have had the great pleasure and privilege of knowing Duane for close to 20 years. He is a walking encyclopedia of poultry knowledge. Duane is a fine human being who eats sleeps and drinks poultry. Poultry is his source of income. A lot of his birds win at the local and even state level of fairs and shows.

He currently has about 100 varieties of chickens, geese, turkeys and Muscovy ducks. He is the closest thing to a private breeder you will find operating a hatchery. He shows what he sells. His birds are bred to the APA standard. You can obtain very good foundation stock from him. Note key word foundation. Some of his birds are excellent right out of the egg, while others will need a few years of work to get up to really competitive show quality.

Truth of the matter is, no one can raise 100 varieties of national show quality birds. No one. If that is what you need to get started contact the best show winner of the breed you want plop down 300.00 or more for a trio and figure how you will get them from his farm to yours. Remember what Mr. Sturgeon said ”Start where you are and with what you have.“ Pick a breed and start with the best you can afford from a reliable and forthcoming breeder you trust.

18 years ago I bought two trio’s of show quality bantams from a nationally known breeder that were drop dead gorgeous show birds. Showed them and won at several shows. Then came breeding season the hens laid like crazy and the cock birds were both sterile. Paid 500.00 US dollars for 6 birds. I was so happy I gave them to a kid because he liked them and I knew he would take good care of them.

I live about 45 miles from Duane. He currently does not have a website. Perhaps in the near future. You can PM me and I will try to get a few pics on my next visit of what you folks would like to see. Hoping this doesn’t turn into a couple hundred pics. I will also get a current list to post for the 2011 season.

Charlie

The pics are coming Bob.
 
In a few days I will introduce you to some pretty Light Brahma large fowl. The kind I thought I had when I started in 1960 but had the production type. bob

Yay! I have been looking for a breeder of good Light Brahma birds. Brahmas are one of my very favorite breeds. I can't wait to see your pics!
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Urch Turnland poultry is a hatchery but its a show quality hatchery. Urch- Turnland poultry are master breeders of 6 breeds.

which 6 breeds? i was told that his cubalaya was hatchery quality at best. not to say anything wrong with hatchery if thats what you want.
 
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Urch Turnland poultry is a hatchery but its a show quality hatchery. Urch- Turnland poultry are master breeders of 6 breeds.

which 6 breeds? i was told that his cubalaya was hatchery quality at best. not to say anything wrong with hatchery if thats what you want.

Urch hatcher may have Cubalayas like other hatcheries I dont know for sure. Out of 100 breeds I am sure he has some that are not as good as others. For example if you got New Hampshires from him they may be equal to other hatcheries because the breed has gone down so bad. However, he may have light brahmas that are very good and are almost equal to some of the good breeders. Also, guys like me line breed and have small matings of one to two females very much like the breeders of Old English bantams. Mr. Urch may have ten or twenty females and three roosters in a big pen to get good feritility and this is called Flock Mattings.

I had a freind who twenty years ago use to sell Rhode Island Red large fowl chicks in lots of 25 shipped in a small box. He told me he would hatch on Mondays and Tuesdays and ship them out. He could not get the 25 min of chicks per order unless he flocked mated them. Becasue he did his over all gene pool was about one point lower than some of his fellow breeders and so he lowered his number of birds in flock mating and put his best birds in small matings of say three females and one male had three pens like this and then started wining like no buddys business.

He supplied many people with Rhode Island Reds and they did very well with them and then a good breeder in two or three years could breed them up to the highest level possable and they would have the top Reds in thier region. The problem was they where very far and few between.Most people won with them and then breed them backwards or crossed them to another strain of Reds and they where distroyed. They where kind of here today and gone tomorrow breeders which is very common.

Many times you may want Butter Cups and they will send you ten and the others will be of other breeds to make the order. Thier is a breeder in Virgina that can sell say Partridge Plymouth Rock large fowl and you may end up with some buff and barred rocks or large fowl reds to make the order but at least you got ten Partridge birds to work with and you can get rid of the other birds if you dont want them.

Do you have pictures of your cubalays? We would love to see what they look like and how long have you breed them.? Are there many people who have this breed?

bob


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=418033 A new thread was started called Official Heritage Poultry Exibition Thread.
 
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Urch Turnland poultry is a hatchery but its a show quality hatchery. Urch- Turnland poultry are master breeders of 6 breeds.

which 6 breeds? i was told that his cubalaya was hatchery quality at best. not to say anything wrong with hatchery if thats what you want.

I don't know where you heard that about his Cubalaya's. They are as good as any around....at least the ones I have seen while judging.

Walt
 
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which 6 breeds? i was told that his cubalaya was hatchery quality at best. not to say anything wrong with hatchery if thats what you want.

Urch hatcher may have Cubalayas like other hatcheries I dont know for sure. Out of 100 breeds I am sure he has some that are not as good as others. For example if you got New Hampshires from him they may be equal to other hatcheries because the breed has gone down so bad. However, he may have light brahmas that are very good and are almost equal to some of the good breeders. Also, guys like me line breed and have small matings of one to two females very much like the breeders of Old English bantams. Mr. Urch may have ten or twenty females and three roosters in a big pen to get good feritility and this is called Flock Mattings.

I had a freind who twenty years ago use to sell Rhode Island Red large fowl chicks in lots of 25 shipped in a small box. He told me he would hatch on Mondays and Tuesdays and ship them out. He could not get the 25 min of chicks per order unless he flocked mated them. Becasue he did his over all gene pool was about one point lower than some of his fellow breeders and so he lowered his number of birds in flock mating and put his best birds in small matings of say three females and one male had three pens like this and then started wining like no buddys business.

He supplied many people with Rhode Island Reds and they did very well with them and then a good breeder in two or three years could breed them up to the highest level possable and they would have the top Reds in thier region. The problem was they where very far and few between.Most people won with them and then breed them backwards or crossed them to another strain of Reds and they where distroyed. They where kind of here today and gone tomorrow breeders which is very common.

Many times you may want Butter Cups and they will send you ten and the others will be of other breeds to make the order. Thier is a breeder in Virgina that can sell say Partridge Plymouth Rock large fowl and you may end up with some buff and barred rocks or large fowl reds to make the order but at least you got ten Partridge birds to work with and you can get rid of the other birds if you dont want them.

Do you have pictures of your cubalays? We would love to see what they look like and how long have you breed them.? Are there many people who have this breed?

bob


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=418033 A new thread was started called Official Heritage Poultry Exibition Thread.

Sam Brush in TX has good Cubalaya's

Walt
 
i heard doc everett say it. sam brush has some great looking bb red cubalayas. my original cubalayas came from glenn drowns. he got his from craig russell. craig russell has some great looking cubalayas. i am concentating on brown red , red pyle , and some of the lesser known colors of cubalaya. i dont show them but i consider them to be a heritage breed. i have posted lots of pics on this site but here is cubalaya hen that just started laying.

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