Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[joletabey]

Of COURSE he does.

Thank you for all the links!

 

[kathyinmo]

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Now this confuses me. How many "Nationals," are there?

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

From what I understand, the ABA Nationals were held in Ohio this year while the APA nationals are being held in Shawnee, OK.

 

[fowlman01]

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This is correct. Each organization has one national per year.

Walt

 

[Chickanmanfromarkansas]

Just popped in to see what was going on, on this thread. I'm looking to see if anyone is raising and selling Rosecomb White Leghorns.
I'll be interested a little later if anyone is.
kathyinmo, I may be contacting you to see if maybe you'll have Barred Rock eggs or chicks availiable later on too. Your's look very nice.

Don't really show mainly because I never see anything (major shows) around my area. We just have the county and state fairs but I don't think they judge them right, I've seen too many chickens entered as one breed but is not totally that breed. Example at the county fair someone enter a "Barred Rock" you could see clearly that it was a Black Sex Link, itt had red coming out of his neck feathers. He was not even disqualified for being enter wrong. Just goes to show you why I don't like county and state fairs.

ETA: Most of my experience has been with hatchery chicks. Not really knocking them as most are good layers and all, but I think I want the real McCoy.

 

[jenjscott]

I have to agree on the county fairs, but they are not sanctioned shows, and don't have to have a judge with any kind of qualifications. But you should try the district or state fair. We had like 1000 birds at the state fair, some really nice ones. It was an APA sanctioned show. In the spring I hope to see another Big Bird Classic, (Pine Bluff) another sanctioned show, there were about 600 birds at that one.

 

[NYREDS]

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Now this confuses me. How many "Nationals," are there?

The folks who named the show in Columbus Ohio named it "The Ohio National". It's generally the largest show in the country whether or not it hosts the APA or ABA National meets but it'd the name they chose not the name that was conferred by either national organization.
In 2004 one of the clubs I do the bookwork for hosted the APA National Meet. The show was still known as "The Yankee Fall Classic", not as the .....National.

 

[Jared77]

Ive been doing some thinking and I've got a question.

I don't have this but let me create a scenario here that I've wondered about.

Say someone's family has kept RIRs. These are birds that have have been passed down for a few generations, they go back to Grandpa and Grandma's birds when she kept some during the war effort has always had them around. These run around the property, they lay a large brown egg, they are not swimming in eggs but they have them whenever they need some. Some are butchered when its time to eat. Grandpa gave some to his kids when they bought a house, and now the grandkids have a flock of these birds too. Nobody is really serious about breeding them the birds just go up into the coop at dusk. The big old roo looks over his hens, nothing special. Sometimes a hen goes broody and they see chicks on occasion in the spring but there isn't any effort to incubate chicks because there's always enough of them around. Its something that each generation has grown up with and its just "what we've done" when asked why they have them.

When you look at them their color is so so. Its not real dark mahogany. Its darker than a NH, but not that real rich red like many SQ birds have. No other colors just a medium red. There more square shaped than a real brick. Some are more brick like but by and large they are not that classic brick shape. These are nothing special to look at they are just chickens.

Are these considered heritage?

Now if I had some of those exact same birds that had so so color. The same medium red, same body shape that more square shaped than brick, and my hens laid about 160 eggs a year. I keep them because I want to be more self sustaining but I got them from the local feed store who ordered them from Murry McMurry I know they won't be considered heritage.

What's the difference?

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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Now this confuses me. How many "Nationals," are there?

back in 1980 (?) someone had a great idea: a joint APA/ABA National!

This was held in Columbus Ohio....thus teh name was coined: the Ohio National

It has been awhile since then but the name stuck, teh Ohio National.

Each breed club has a national meet. Sometimes they are held with the APA, sometimes with the ABA. Others hold with different shows. the Ameraucana National was at frankfort KY this year. The Buckeye National at the Ohio National. However, many...almost most....will hol their national at Crossroads....the 2011 JOINT APA/ABA National Meet.

Hope that helps.

Jim

 

[Robert Blosl]

Jared that would be a old strain from Grand Pa days and they sort of revert to what they want to be. Most of the time they have lost color and shape but the lost genes are there. I found a old strain from California that is 40 years old. I am going to get some eggs from this guy and see if I can bring back the color with the secrets I have in my head on excess color breeding. They look like Harold Tompkins Rhode Island Reds from the 1950s. They have the type but are faded in color some what from the picture I saw. No big deal. In Arkansas this could happen. There where some great breeders of R I Red Large fowl in that state 40 years ago. Thats what is so neat about this web site we have found lost strains of large fowl. We have got these lost strains in the hands of people who want to help keep these breeds going and thats the whole purpose of this thread. bob