Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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I posted in the heritage RIR thread. I have 4 reds of William Bennett's line 3 of which are cockerels. I'd like trade trade cockerels for 1 or 2 hens/pullets. They are 5 months old. I'd even be willing to throw in some young Dominique pullets or cockerels.
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Morning all

Here are a few shots of #16. This is the cockerel who has caught my eye so far.....and I have PLENTY to look at unfortunately. Any thoughts??

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Please excuse Pepper, my Delaware roo, who slipped into a few pix. This cockerel is still moulting some primary wing feathers so his wings look a bit ratty
 
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Those are some combs you would like to see on a jap. They have big earlobes, huge combs, pinched tails and really bad leghorn type....compared to our leghorns. It is always interesting to see the type differences between the US birds and other countries.

Walt

Walt I could not get over the pictures of these birds I have seen hatchery leghorns better than what they are showing. I am going to send this site to a friend of mine who is a leghron bantam breeder and let him look at these pictures befor we talk tonight about reds.

The article might help Scott down the road. Scott I like the young ckl. Maybe he will look like his grand pa in canada. bob
 
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Those are some combs you would like to see on a jap. They have big earlobes, huge combs, pinched tails and really bad leghorn type....compared to our leghorns. It is always interesting to see the type differences between the US birds and other countries.

Walt

Walt I could not get over the pictures of these birds I have seen hatchery leghorns better than what they are showing. I am going to send this site to a friend of mine who is a leghron bantam breeder and let him look at these pictures befor we talk tonight about reds.

The article might help Scott down the road. Scott I like the young ckl. Maybe he will look like his grand pa in canada. bob

I have raised leghorn bantams for over 30 years......I'm sure glad I don't have any that look like those. They have a different Standard, but those birds don't really look like Leghorns.
I'm sure glad that folks here aren't pushing the British Standard for these like they do for some of the other breeds...........This is a wonderful example of what other countries do to our breeds.

Walt
 
Boy you said a mouth full look at the Orps fluff balls I was shocked. I would hate to have to go to thier country and judge thier bird. Germany is different they have standard kind of birds some better than ours but the legs on thier birds are like mondern games. They have some of the best typed R I Reds I have seen but their legs are two inchs longer from the keel to the ground. This is what they have done in just 60 years as after world war two they had no reds untill we sent them some. bob
 
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Looking at the leghorn site, it seems that their blue is a self blue with no lacing, which is very interesting to me because the coloration is soo similar to lavender.
 
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Many folks just do not understand that just because they call a breed by the same name in another country, it is not neccessarily the same breed. When you have 60+ years seperating the two country's breed, they go in seperate directions many times. Even in the USA type can vary from different regions.

We have Fads in poultry. This year its White silkies. Next year Black Cochins. A true breeder will stay with what he knows. He may extend to a few projects, but a good breeder always goes back to what he knows best.
 
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Many folks just do not understand that just because they call a breed by the same name in another country, it is not neccessarily the same breed. When you have 60+ years seperating the two country's breed, they go in seperate directions many times. Even in the USA type can vary from different regions.

We have Fads in poultry. This year its White silkies. Next year Black Cochins. A true breeder will stay with what he knows. He may extend to a few projects, but a good breeder always goes back to what he knows best.

Amen!
 
More like over 100 years ago the the English Standard and the American Standard have been different.
Here is are a few pages from my 1911 Reliable Poultry Journal on Orpingtons. This says it all.
This was the way they looked over 100 years ago. But I like IT!!
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We need more BLACK ORPS!!
Just a couple of my 2011 juvie 4 to 5 month oles.

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I have a copy of the British Standard. When I look at the illustrations with an American judge's eye The birds appear hideous. All the breeds I'm familiar with here have been developed very differently there. Neither here nor there are necessarily better but they sure are different.
 
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