Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[jmc]

as a side note, a bit of heritage info here:

my friends ma--in the 1930s, btw--had, not so called heritage fowl for her layers, but Black Sexlinks. They were her best producers and she got them from hatcheries more local to her VT home.

This is in the 1930s!

IOW, 'old time chickens' aren't at all necessarily 'heritage' breeds!

 

[vmdanielsen]

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I was told by Peter at First State that Frontline is NOT absorbed through the skin, but Ivermectin is. Just fwiw.

Here's what the Frontline website says:
"When you apply FRONTLINE, fipronil, the active ingredient, is stored in the oil glands under your pet's skin. It is then distributed continuously to the skin and hair of your pet through the hair follicles."

How does it get under your pet's skin?

 

[Chris09]

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Here's what the Frontline website says:
"When you apply FRONTLINE, fipronil, the active ingredient, is stored in the oil glands under your pet's skin. It is then distributed continuously to the skin and hair of your pet through the hair follicles."

How does it get under your pet's skin?

It's absorbed through the skin.

When fipronil is exposed to light it can break down into a molecule called MB4651324 or fipronil-desulfinyl.25, Fipronil-desulfinyl is more easily absorbed through the skin than is fipronil.

JOURNAL OF PESTICIDE REFORM/ SPRING 2005 • VOL. 25, NO. 1
Insecticide Fact Sheet
FIPRONIL
http://www.pesticide.org/get-the-facts/ … s/fipronil

Chris

 

[cgmccary]

My vet told me that Ivermectin works better given on the skin between the shoulder blades than given orally to the bird (more effective on the skin -something about the digestive tract's effect on it). When I use it as an anthelmintic from time to time, it gets rid of all the external parasites too.

I keep honeynees. Sevin dust is extremely toxic to honeybees so I don't let the stuff on my premises. I talk to my neighbors and discourage them from using it on their gardens & vineyards since my bees visit their fields. It is so widely available and used in this country that it is no wonder the bees are under such duress. Sevin is also classified as a likely human carcinogen. I would only use Sevin for external parasites on my birds if nothing else worked (same for Frontline) = neither is approved for poultry.

Permethrin is approved for poultry. but I wouldn't use because of my bees. Mites around here seem to have developed some resistance to it anyway -- I am told by my county extension office.

 

[OwensMom]

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cgmccary-what form of Ivermectin do you use? Paste, liquid wormer for horses/cattle. And what dose? Thanks

 

[neftaball]

Also what is the withdrawal time for eggs after dosing with ivermectin, or for that matter any of the things used for external parasites.

 

[NYREDS]

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Since it is not labeled for use with poultry there is no withdrawl time suggested.
That said, there is no meat or milk withdrawl period for Ivermectin used with cattle so It's reasonable to assume the same applies to eggs. [IMO]

 

[neftaball]

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Since it is not labeled for use with poultry there is no withdrawl time suggested.
That said, there is no meat or milk withdrawl period for Ivermectin used with cattle so It's reasonable to assume the same applies to eggs. [IMO]

I thought there was a 48 day withdrawal for meat cattle and it was not approved for cows that are milking, the pour on that is. I think injectable is 35 days.

 

[centrarchid]

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Since it is not labeled for use with poultry there is no withdrawl time suggested.
That said, there is no meat or milk withdrawl period for Ivermectin used with cattle so It's reasonable to assume the same applies to eggs. [IMO]

I thought there was a 48 day withdrawal for meat cattle and it was not approved for cows that are milking, the pour on that is. I think injectable is 35 days.

Follow link for ivermectin.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/ivermectin-injection-for-cattle-and-swine.html

 

[NYREDS]

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I thought there was a 48 day withdrawal for meat cattle and it was not approved for cows that are milking, the pour on that is. I think injectable is 35 days.

Follow link for ivermectin.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/ivermectin-injection-for-cattle-and-swine.html

I stand corrected. Don't know where I got the idea there was no withdrawl period. I usually fact check before I post & I didn't this time. Sorry.