Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[kathyinmo]

anyone use egg crate in brinsea incubators?

This is a Brinsea......

 

[BarnGoddess01]

anyone use egg crate in brinsea incubators?

I tried it once in my Brinsea. Wasn't comfortable with the lack of head room when hatching larger chicks like Marans.

 

[kathyinmo]

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It worked fine for me. You can see in the picture, I had Marans eggs in there. Of course, I take them out when there are 3 or 4 hatched. I use yet another incubator for them to dry off in. Actually, I rarely use the Brinsea incubators that I have. I don't like them.... for many reasons, one being the lack of room.

 

[Bentley]

Since this is the Heritage Poultry forum and seemingly has discussions on some of our oldest American breeds if chickens, I am wondering what the thoughts are of the group. First of all, remember that all breeds of chickens, with the exception of 'actual' Red Jungle fowl, are the result of crossing of other breeds of chickens to create a new breed. So knowing that their really isn't any 'pure breed' of chicken amongst our recognized APA breeds, what does everyone here think about out crossing to other breeds of chickens in order to strengthen a breed with certain desired traits?

 

[NYREDS]

Kinda off topic, but I got this "chicken related," email from a friend.....

Our teacher asked us what our favorite animal was, and I said, "Fried chicken." She said I wasn't funny, but she couldn't have been right, everyone else in the class laughed. My parents told me to always be truthful and honest, and I am. Fried chicken is my favorite animal.

I told my dad what happened, and he said my teacher was probably a member of PETA. He said they love animals very much. I do, too. Especially chicken, pork and beef. Anyway, my teacher sent me to the principal's office. I told him what happened, and he laughed too. Then he told me not to do it again.

The next day in class my teacher asked me what my favorite live animal was. I told her it was chicken. She asked me why, just like she'd asked the other children. So I told her it was because you could make them into fried chicken. She sent me back to the principal's office again. He laughed, and told me not to do it again.

I don't understand. My parents taught me to be honest, but my teacher doesn't like it when I am. Today, my teacher asked us to tell her what famous person we admire most. I told her, "Colonel Sanders".

Guess where I am now..

As a former class clown who spent a great deal of time in the Principal's Office I think this is hilarious.

 

[galanie]

Since this is the Heritage Poultry forum and seemingly has discussions on some of our oldest American breeds if chickens, I am wondering what the thoughts are of the group. First of all, remember that all breeds of chickens, with the exception of 'actual' Red Jungle fowl, are the result of crossing of other breeds of chickens to create a new breed. So knowing that their really isn't any 'pure breed' of chicken amongst our recognized APA breeds, what does everyone here think about out crossing to other breeds of chickens in order to strengthen a breed with certain desired traits?

I'm going to stick my neck out here. From what I've read, it's fine so long as the breed used to improve it is one of the breeds used to make the thing in the first place. For those breeds which no one is sure of, well, keep your mouth shut and keep them SOP looking. hehe.

 

[nyanamia]

There are two I know of sort of within driving distance. I'm in Houston. But the Brazos Valley Poultry Club has the Bluebonnet Classic in Jan. at College Station: http://www.bluebonnetclassic.com and there is the County Fair in Beaumont that has a sanctioned show. Those are the only two I know of after all this time within a reasonable distance from me. Can't remember for sure but the Texas State Fair there in Dallas might hold one as well.

Thanks Galanie. I've been looking into the Bluebonnet Classic. I went to the STate Fair one, but wasn't sure if it was an APA show or not. There were a lot of hatchery-lookin birds there.
What about the Fort Worth stock show? I know there's a junior and open poultry show.

 

[NYREDS]

Since this is the Heritage Poultry forum and seemingly has discussions on some of our oldest American breeds if chickens, I am wondering what the thoughts are of the group. First of all, remember that all breeds of chickens, with the exception of 'actual' Red Jungle fowl, are the result of crossing of other breeds of chickens to create a new breed. So knowing that their really isn't any 'pure breed' of chicken amongst our recognized APA breeds, what does everyone here think about out crossing to other breeds of chickens in order to strengthen a breed with certain desired traits?

By your logic there's no pure bred anything. Dogs, Cats, Cows, Horses, Etc all current breeds were created. If you read tha ALBC definition of Heritage what you propose would render the strain no longer Heritage. Personally I don't think it matters. Results matter. Once the bird is in the show cage what matters is it's aaadherence to the breed standard. The judge has no way of knowing what went into the breeding. I know the strain of Blue ANdalusians I just took over had Minorca crossed in a few years ago to increase size. It worked.

 

[mschlumb]

Since this is the Heritage Poultry forum and seemingly has discussions on some of our oldest American breeds if chickens, I am wondering what the thoughts are of the group. First of all, remember that all breeds of chickens, with the exception of 'actual' Red Jungle fowl, are the result of crossing of other breeds of chickens to create a new breed. So knowing that their really isn't any 'pure breed' of chicken amongst our recognized APA breeds, what does everyone here think about out crossing to other breeds of chickens in order to strengthen a breed with certain desired traits?

I dont see a problem with outcrossing to another breed to improve certain characteristics, such as size. while it is true that many breeds were created by crossing different breeds i feel as breeders we should try to stay close to being as "pure" blood as possible. For example it would be ridiculous to cross an old breed breed of chicken such as the Dorking with a Broiler.

 

[Bentley]

Well who would do that?????? Any way, ALL APA breeds are the result of crossing different breeds together, every one of them. So who decided that it was 'frowned upon' to recreate old breeds in the same manner they were originally created? Seems to me that that is REALLY 'getting back to the original breeds'. I guess the creativity and ingenuity of the original breed developers is taboo to dabble in anymore?