Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Lotsapaints]

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As they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I LOVE the look of the English Orps, and I don't care what is under the fluff. However, I do happen to have some, "American" Orps, bred to the APA SOP I imagine, since they came from Dick Horstman and he is an APA judge. What do you think of these 2 blues? They are nearing 6 months old, and are just now filling out.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_2010_0930brroos9-23-100007.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_2010_0930brroos9-23-100010.jpg

Oh I think they are so ugly you need to box them up and mail them to me ......just how many kinds of chickens do you have? Good thing you don't live close to me I'd be over at your house

all afternoon. I love the darker one very pretty....

 

[kathyinmo]

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My best answer would be ..... "fewer than I used to!"

Another saying is, "Variety is the spice of life."

By the way, I like spice!

 

[Chris09]

kathyinmo,
It might be just be but, I would like the see more height of tail and the back less flat. That would give you that "Heart" shape that a Orpington should have.
To me the hen in the first picture (leg band 5) is a better hen, she needs work on the lacing but she is not as dark as the hen in the second picture (leg band 8).
But that is just my option and what I see off hand and there nice.

Dick has nice birds we (the wife and I) known him for some time and we got a lot of birds and eggs off him.

Chris

 

[lildinkem]

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Walt,

If you hear of any good news, just PM me. And we can work together. I do a form a trap breeding and you can custum make your eggs to order. I can put any Buff cock/cockerel on who ever you like. For free ofcourse.
lolololol Now I love her. But, I do notice that I tend to encourage her to go shopping alot on weekends, without me ofcourse. lolololol

Why not also share a pic of a print I seen on EBAY that is from the 1890's. This is not even ten years after the Black Orpingtons were introduced. Great tool is as said before look at pics of who's winning in Poultry Press

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL427/739981/20597748/380776424.jpg

I checked a few pics on the Brit Orp thread. When I said the Orps are looking like Cochins I hadn't seen those pics. All they need is feathers on the feet and a little more downward curve on the tail to be a Cochin. I would love to see what the bodies look like under all those feathers. I bet that there isn't much there. Their heads are tiny! There was shot of a black one from the top down and it looked like a pinhead.....hahahaah They are very cool looking to me, but they aren't Orpingtons.

Walt

I needed a pure Tony Ewert lined cock/cockerel last year to breed to my Akers Buffs to bring in the color I want, Terry has pure Ewert line. I have a Buff cock from Terry and took him to my Akers Buff hens. And he is smaller then the ones I am showing, but he is a solid bird. Doug, said that he likes Tony's Buff to bring back his color in his line every few years. And the Buff in my avatar is from that breeding. A definite upgrade on color while still maintaining the Akers body type. I agree with the heads on most of our Brit showline Orps nowadays are smaller.
If you look on one pic the bird clearly has yellow skin. Their is Cochin in many. An Old School friend calls them "Leghorn Heads" lolololol, no offense to anyone raising Leghorns, just don't want them on an Orpington. I truelly live for the "biggest head and Biggest and broadest chest theory." I am building my Buffs, and Blacks, and next year I get to work the Blues better. I read and agree, that anytime you start a variety of a breed to be patient in what you expect. Next year I expect more from my Blues, the following year it will be the Whites. I need numbers to build with. That is what this season is about.

 

[kathyinmo]

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I am no Orp breeder, I just enjoy having a few of them around to look at. I think they are pretty, and I love to see nice lacing.

Now, the Barred Rocks ...... I would love to be a breeder of them, in the future! When I think of "Heritage," I think of Barred Rocks and Delawares.

 

[joletabey]

Hey Walt, I went out and checked my 6 English Orp chicks. They all have nice sturdy legs.

The rocks are attracting me more and more- but I really like Partridge Rocks- I have also heard these are rather rare if you want good ones. I know they were admitted to the SOP in 1910 - is anyone here working on them?

 

[fowlman01]

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As they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I LOVE the look of the English Orps, and I don't care what is under the fluff. However, I do happen to have some, "American" Orps, bred to the APA SOP I imagine, since they came from Dick Horstman and he is an APA judge. What do you think of these 2 blues? They are nearing 6 months old, and are just now filling out.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_2010_0930brroos9-23-100007.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_2010_0930brroos9-23-100010.jpg

I like both of them. They both look nice and deep for young birds. No Cochin look to them. Dick Horstman is a good breeder. His wife Pat is the APA Secretary.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

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So you lifted them up and checked to see if they had legs? Again I think they look pretty cool, but they are really different from what I perceive as an Orp.

Walt

 

[joletabey]

Walt, I agree they are different. Evidently they used a big infusion of Cochin blood in the UK and got the fluffier look sans feathered legs. I truly like both looks- and am wondering if a little of the English blood would lift the tails on some of the flatter American birds to get that shape.

 

[lildinkem]

I appreciate the superior lacing on the UK Blue Orpingtons. Which I believe is from Andulusion cross a while ago. So, there are alot of breeds in what we call an (English) Orpington. And IF you like to show that lacing is a plus for those who like Blues. Those who want to be on their game in the APA Shows will still need, like Chris said more back and a bit leggier bird with defined shanks as Walt said. There is a limit of how much Fluff will be accepted and tolerated by APA judges, I believe. So, I try to breed to the print from the 1890's. I think, in my eyes, that print is closer to todays APA version of Orpington. And that print was created while William Cook was still alive.