Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread
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How did you do at the show Walt?
Hi Everyone- I have been doing some digging around. You guys have said, in order to find some of the old Delaware lines we need to start digging up names of old breeders and showers. Well, I talked to the president of the SPPA. Not only did he give me some real good hopefuls, that I will call today, but he dropped the name of a man that used to raise them. I guess this was his breed. Something he was known for. The mans name is Russel Bodwell. I guess, he hasn't had Delaware for some time now( he said about 20yrs) But he did dispurse his flock when he got out of them. Do any of our experts remember Russel Bodwell, and know who he might have dispursed them to. Our discussion was cut short, but he did say that there was another guy that was in the SPPA a while back, that did recieve some of his birds, but this second man is gone now. I was wondering where his stock went to aswell. If anyone can share some info on him, I would love to hear it!
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Champion waterfowl on an East Indie bantam duck, champ goose on a brown chinese and res Aoccl on a dark Cornish bantam.
Champion waterfowl on an East Indie bantam duck, champ goose on a brown chinese and res Aoccl on a dark Cornish bantam.
Good work, Tacey!!!!! Please share tonight, also, OK?
Congratulations, Walt, that is great!
Congratulations, Walt, that is great!
Awesome Walt! Great job, I sure hope your good showing vibes rub off on us when we go to show!
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It doesn't usually happen by accident, but there are things I can show you that help a little. Are you showing at Stockton?
Walt
It doesn't usually happen by accident, but there are things I can show you that help a little. Are you showing at Stockton?
Walt
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nice job walt!
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The Committee is working on it, but I will not know the results until the Shawnee show 12/11. The last APA newsletter indicated that there was a lot of interest in it and that several people would like to add their input.
Walt
The Heritage Poultry Committee of the APA (currently comprised of myself [Sam Brush], Don Schrider and Butch Gunderson, began with a charge to explore opportunities for establishing what would essentially be a "judges bureau" where APA judges would refine their skills for evaluating "heritage poultry" and be able to certify to varying degrees the heritage flocks of poultry. There are no plans for the APA to come up with a list of Heritage Breeds because that has essentially already been done through the collaborative effort with the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy. They have the definition on their website, and for all intents and purposes it outlines a heritage breed as one that was incorporated into the Standard of Perfection up through the mid-20th century (1950 +- a year or two) and which has some other characteristics relating to growth rates, etc. The ALBC and APA hammered that definition out over several meetings, with counsel from Frank Reese. While I think Frank Reese was thinking mostly along the lines of Barred Plymouth Rocks, White Wyandottes, Dark Cornish and the like, the definition language was set up to be broad enough that Speckled Sussex could be a "heritage breed" primarily for market, and Golden Spangled Hamburgs could be a heritage egg production flock. My understanding is that this can encompass bantam chickens as well, although there obviously would be less interest in bantams from the production standpoint. It was mostly intended to orient to those breeds that during the first half of the 20th century were the main ones use for money-making farm flocks. That list includes White Wyandottes, Anconas, Black Minorcas, Jersey Giants, Brahmas, Buff Orpingtons, etc. etc. If one browses some of the poultry journals from the 1930's you will find a number of advertisements for flocks of egg production breeds, dual purpose breeds and breeds used for meat production. There was even a flock of Black Breasted Red Old English Games in New England that served as a pretty good sized egg production flock - like a couple thousand! Breeds such as Delawares and Hollands came along toward the tail end of that period and in some cases had shorter periods of intense popularity. Nevertheless they are included in the heritage breed pool. During the 1940's and 1950's the APA actually had a corps of judges and other poultry specialists that were designated "flock certifiers." They went from farm to farm, evaluating the poultry against the Standard of Perfection and issuing certificates based on the caliber of the flocks. They charged for that service too!
So, the definition/list is more or less in place, and that is not on the committee docket for the Annual Meet in Shawnee. More likely the committee will be examining ideas for information sharing with poultry judges and those interested in establishing a heritage breed flock that is being put to its intended use. We are trying to not let this turn into the next version of the pot-bellied pig craze, where there is lots of fanfare and attention paid to these breeds simply because they have been annointed as a heritage poultry breed. Perhaps some day soon you may see a restaurant offering a special meal of "broiled half a Rhode Island Red," or an omelet prepared with "certified Blue Andalusian eggs." Those advertising moguls that trotted out the "Certified Angus Beef" weren't just being elitist!
Sam Brush
President, American Poultry Association
The Committee is working on it, but I will not know the results until the Shawnee show 12/11. The last APA newsletter indicated that there was a lot of interest in it and that several people would like to add their input.
Walt
The Heritage Poultry Committee of the APA (currently comprised of myself [Sam Brush], Don Schrider and Butch Gunderson, began with a charge to explore opportunities for establishing what would essentially be a "judges bureau" where APA judges would refine their skills for evaluating "heritage poultry" and be able to certify to varying degrees the heritage flocks of poultry. There are no plans for the APA to come up with a list of Heritage Breeds because that has essentially already been done through the collaborative effort with the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy. They have the definition on their website, and for all intents and purposes it outlines a heritage breed as one that was incorporated into the Standard of Perfection up through the mid-20th century (1950 +- a year or two) and which has some other characteristics relating to growth rates, etc. The ALBC and APA hammered that definition out over several meetings, with counsel from Frank Reese. While I think Frank Reese was thinking mostly along the lines of Barred Plymouth Rocks, White Wyandottes, Dark Cornish and the like, the definition language was set up to be broad enough that Speckled Sussex could be a "heritage breed" primarily for market, and Golden Spangled Hamburgs could be a heritage egg production flock. My understanding is that this can encompass bantam chickens as well, although there obviously would be less interest in bantams from the production standpoint. It was mostly intended to orient to those breeds that during the first half of the 20th century were the main ones use for money-making farm flocks. That list includes White Wyandottes, Anconas, Black Minorcas, Jersey Giants, Brahmas, Buff Orpingtons, etc. etc. If one browses some of the poultry journals from the 1930's you will find a number of advertisements for flocks of egg production breeds, dual purpose breeds and breeds used for meat production. There was even a flock of Black Breasted Red Old English Games in New England that served as a pretty good sized egg production flock - like a couple thousand! Breeds such as Delawares and Hollands came along toward the tail end of that period and in some cases had shorter periods of intense popularity. Nevertheless they are included in the heritage breed pool. During the 1940's and 1950's the APA actually had a corps of judges and other poultry specialists that were designated "flock certifiers." They went from farm to farm, evaluating the poultry against the Standard of Perfection and issuing certificates based on the caliber of the flocks. They charged for that service too!
So, the definition/list is more or less in place, and that is not on the committee docket for the Annual Meet in Shawnee. More likely the committee will be examining ideas for information sharing with poultry judges and those interested in establishing a heritage breed flock that is being put to its intended use. We are trying to not let this turn into the next version of the pot-bellied pig craze, where there is lots of fanfare and attention paid to these breeds simply because they have been annointed as a heritage poultry breed. Perhaps some day soon you may see a restaurant offering a special meal of "broiled half a Rhode Island Red," or an omelet prepared with "certified Blue Andalusian eggs." Those advertising moguls that trotted out the "Certified Angus Beef" weren't just being elitist!
Sam Brush
President, American Poultry Association
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