Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[fowlman01]

Walt,

Are those Malay in the breeding pens?

Chris

O Shamo's....good eye Chris..I don't think most would notice that they were orientals. Kind of dark in there.

Walt

 

[Robert Blosl]

In regards to Light Brahmas that was my first breed at age 10 however, today as well as back then the dont lay good. I had a friend who got some real nice ones and he did not hat ch many this year. Eggs all clear maybe you got to pluck the feathers around their vents like Cochins. Never the less you will figure out what you like in time. Just because you have some so so birds its still good practice to raise and breed and also hatch these birds be for you invest in good .Standard Breed Large Fowl. I had production reds and production white rocks in my chicken pens to look at when I was little. Funny thing 60 years latter I have the same breeds but not production types. I consider them Standard Breed fowl and the will make the list of old time chickens which my cut off is 1964. If they where in the black and white standard that came out are on the old fashion list. Nice booklet Kathy, you got know you can com pair his birds in these pictures with what you have live on the ground today. Does any one have a colored picture of the Schilling New Hampshire they can post so we can see the color of what Schilling painted of the correct colored bird. bob

 

[catdaddyfro]

Does any one have a colored picture of the Schilling New Hampshire they can post so we can see the color of what Schilling painted of the correct colored bird. bob

I know there's another better one of a male somewhere I got to find it I'm nowhere near an organized computer whizz so bear with me all.

 

[Chris09]

O Shamo's....good eye Chris..I don't think most would notice that they were orientals. Kind of dark in there.

Walt

I like that cock bird in the 2nd pen from the left he's nice.
Are those your breeding pens? I see you had some chicks on the ground in some of the pens.

Chris

 

[gjensen]

On the fourth page scanned, in the next to last paragraph, near the end, it says, "The "mushroom" feathering and the quick, sturdy flesh they make in the first ten week period is a fact well established."
Can someone here tell me what the ' "mushroom" feathering' term means?

My initial impression was that the expression described the speed in which they feathered out. I pictured how a mushroom is not evident one day, and obvious the next. I am not claiming to be correct, it was just what came to mind.

 

[ashandvine]

Use the Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities.

Chris

I took a few minutes to try to navigate this page. The categories are a little confusing. Is there a record, maybe from the manifests of ships, as to what was brought over with early settlers? I am a member of the Ellis Island site and will look there as well as some of the old tax records. A lot of the really old records just say one cow, five chickens, but don't list what types. As an aside, I was surprised to see Houdans on their list and relieved to see Brahmas.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Thank you for the pictures. The first picture is from Diann Jacky who I think did the picture for APA Standard. The last picture was done by Art Schilling before he died in 1957. Notice the hue or the shade of color of the second picture. They tell me a certain judge likes a more lighter colored bird yet the standard picture says different. The New Hampshire's I saw a week ago where very close to this picture. The females for sure had the classic ticking on the neck.

I think if the hue of color is off just a little but the bird has fantastic type he or she should have a shot at Champion American at the shows. Heck its been less than five years since the crosses where made they have made lots of progress since then. I will print out these pictures and com pair them to the South Alabama strain that is only twen wty miles from me.

Here is a thought. I am going to use this dirty word that I started about two years ago. HERITAGE Large Fowl. What should the cut off date be or what list should they come off to be on such a list of Standard Breed Large fowl. Answer. If Art Schilling draw ed the picture for the breed club or the APA Standard or he had a painting such as he did for prints for the Poultry Tribune of Mouth Morris Illinois in 1954 they are then a Heritage Chicken. All the birds that are on my list are fowl that Schilling painted or drawn. If he did not do this they they are not Heritage fowl.

Never thought of this be for but he saw, judged and photographed all of these great birds in his career which goes back to about 1905 to 1957 the year he died.

Thanks again I hope this helps the New Hampshire breeders for something to look at and you also have Ken Bowl es cuts that Schilling photographed in the booklet that Kathy posted. bob

 

[fowlman01]

I like that cock bird in the 2nd pen from the left he's nice.
Are those your breeding pens? I see you had some chicks on the ground in some of the pens.

Chris

The first pen is a pair of Dark O Shamo's. This pic was a year ago, he is much larger now.

Second pen is a pair of Black O Shamo's....this pic is a year old too. All these birds are much larger now.



Yes, those are my breeding pens and I do have some out. The pens are 4' w X 8' deep X 8' tall.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

Sometimes, as I will confess, the breed comes to you, rather than you to the breed. In my case, my grandmother taught me about chickens as she had learned from her grandmother in the 1850's. My grandmother kept a continuous flock from the late 1890's until her death in 1963. I was fortunate enough to have many years, as a young man, learning from her. She kept Rocks, both Barred and White.

When my mom and dad put a flock into my charge in 1959 or 60, they were 200 Leghorns (my mom loved to make "fryers" out of them at 16-18 weeks) and 100 White Rock, which would become her "broiler" and a dozen of the best pullets were held over for winter eggs. The cycle repeated every spring. Wind the clock forward some 50+ years.

I've kept quite a few of the more popular breeds over the years, but I always gravitate back to Rocks. I really like commercial red sex links for the business side of things, but for traditional birds? Rocks. That's not too hard to understand why I would be biased toward them. Just too much family connection. Those can be powerful things inside of each of us.

I haven't heard anyone mention leghorn fryers since the 50's. No one eats leghorns now.....lol

Walt

 

[Fred's Hens]

I haven't heard anyone mention leghorn fryers since the 50's. No one eats leghorns now.....lol

Walt

Tasted just like chicken.