Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[fowlman01]

I'm unsure as to what you mean as to who is breeding goods birds in the USA? There are many Langshans that will take Champion at a show? In the South, the Langshan is the predominant winner and judging by the Poultry Press, others in the northern part of the US are placing very well at shows.

Maybe it is just because I have looked far and wide, but I know of at least 10 good breeders, and no, I am not including myself in this number as I do not believe I have the experience that the others have who have been showing the breed for 40+ years.

I believe the true Modern Langshans was in the US at one point, and has since died out. These are all fairly old breeds that are still very rare. The German Langshan, as far as I have seen are the ones that have been available in Europe for some time, but are still quite rare.


Maybe it is that most of the Langshan breeders are simply not "on the web" and are not well-known or talked about often online?

My own personal flock will continue with Forrest's breeding patterns. I loved the look of his birds and will continue to his "map" of the breed, but why not have some fun and try to bring back an already extinct variety of this breed? I doubt he would be very impressed with the birds at the moment, but nobody was very impressed with his barred rosecombed Minorcas either. Unfortunately, someone purchased those and let that line die.

I do appreciate this thread and would like to take a step back and refrain from discussing breeds that are not in the APA Standard. Thank you for allowing me to interject into the thread.

The Asian class is usually the weakest class in the shows I go to and I go to shows all over the US. Last season in the west the only Langshan that did any good was one male black bantam at one show out of 15 shows here in CA.. You are correct about good breeders not being on the web....this is usually the last place they would be.

I like your statement about being "the woman"....very good.

Walt

 

[MagicChicken]

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They look like basketballs on stilts. Walt is being way too tactful.

 

[fowlman01]

I'm unsure as to what you mean as to who is breeding goods birds in the USA? There are many Langshans that will take Champion at a show? In the South, the Langshan is the predominant winner and judging by the Poultry Press, others in the northern part of the US are placing very well at shows.

I will stick with my original statement. All those wins were with the same Langshan hen. All the pictures of the Langshan in Poultry Press are of the same bird. I know Jennifer the owner. It is a great Langshan hen, but one bird making news does not make a strong breed.

I am not picking on anyone, but as an old timer (I'm past the 40 year criteria) I would like to see some people trying to preserve the heritage birds rather than all these projects. I am sure that there are a couple people breeding good Langshans, but you don't just get to a point and then everything falls into place. To keep them good takes a lot of work and it is never over. These birds don't stay good by themselves.!

Walt

 

[Pault76]

Well it took me a few days but I tracked down some Heyman strain Dominiques about 250 miles from my house. I'm supposed to get a trio in October.

 

[Shyla-C]

I am very new to the chicken world, and was wondering if you consider LF Cochins and Light Brahmas heritage breeds and in need of preserving. I have hatchery stock, which from what I understand now (didn't do enough research before ordering) that is not the best stock to start with, and there is no way to track lineage. What are your thoughts?

Thank You,
Shyla

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

I am very new to the chicken world, and was wondering if you consider LF Cochins and Light Brahmas heritage breeds and in need of preserving. I have hatchery stock, which from what I understand now (didn't do enough research before ordering) that is not the best stock to start with, and there is no way to track lineage. What are your thoughts?

Thank You,
Shyla

Yes, both Cochins and Brahamas are Heritage breeds. Enjoy your backyard layers. Make all the mistakes you can with them. Then find a good breeder and order some hatching eggs or chicks for next season. You may even find some available at shows this fall. Start with a trio and build your Heritage flock from there.

Oh, and

 

[cgmccary]

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HYMAN after David L. Hyman, a priest of the Fransciscan Order (NY) got his first Dominiques from Carl Gallahar & later stock from Ed Uber & the Voters.

 

[cgmccary]

Quote: I agree with Jim. Enjoy these birds that you've got and see if you like it. Unless you plan to be a serious breeder or you plan to show (or both), the hatchery birds are fine. Later if you see you want to commit further, you can invest in some stock from a breeder. You may also decide on another breed as well.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

I'm unsure as to what you mean as to who is breeding goods birds in the USA? There are many Langshans that will take Champion at a show? In the South, the Langshan is the predominant winner and judging by the Poultry Press, others in the northern part of the US are placing very well at shows.

I will stick with my original statement. All those wins were with the same Langshan hen. All the pictures of the Langshan in Poultry Press are of the same bird. I know Jennifer the owner. It is a great Langshan hen, but one bird making news does not make a strong breed.

I am not picking on anyone, but as an old timer (I'm past the 40 year criteria) I would like to see some people trying to preserve the heritage birds rather than all these projects. I am sure that there are a couple people breeding good Langshans, but you don't just get to a point and then everything falls into place. To keep them good takes a lot of work and it is never over. These birds don't stay good by themselves.!

Walt

Walt, rodriguezpoultry is one of Forrest Beauford's proteges. I have seen photos of some of her Langshans and they look good. Hoping to see some of her birds at the shows soon.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]

 

[Pault76]

HYMAN after David L. Hyman, a priest of the Fransciscan Order (NY) got his first Dominiques from Carl Gallahar & later stock from Ed Uber & the Voters.

Thanks for the correction I love the history of the heritage breeds. They're gonna look good in the pen right next to my Mohawk reds.