Brahma Thread

[Tim63]

the ones are from darlene are about 3 or 4 weeks LF. But I also have bantams that I am working on. I do have patience I just want to make sure I am heading in the right way. I have plan to line breed by separating my girls & putting male to them & keep good records. My thing is What should my records look like for each bird or how do I go about it?

3 or 4 weeks is way to young to tell about back and head width. I really was not trying to sound rude. I appreciate candor from others, and I feel like I owe it to someone asking a question. Patience is something I have battled personally with my birds. I keep track of chicks by pen number, mostly the sire. I wing band them at hatch and record, hatch date pen #, sire, and if I am sure of the dam I record that also. I would not start line-breeding until you have your birds close to your goal. Line breeding will re-inforce good traits, but it will make bad traits worse as well.

To Michealinn84. That post of yours is EXACTLY why I am so hesitant to post here anymore. I'm just trying to steer someone clear of some of the mistakes I have made, and provide factual information. BTW, you mis-spelled "Brahma" in your signature line.
Tim Lindenborn

 

[aurorarose25]

3 or 4 weeks is way to young to tell about back and head width. I really was not trying to sound rude. I appreciate candor from others, and I feel like I owe it to someone asking a question. Patience is something I have battled personally with my birds. I keep track of chicks by pen number, mostly the sire. I wing band them at hatch and record, hatch date pen #, sire, and if I am sure of the dam I record that also. I would not start line-breeding until you have your birds close to your goal. Line breeding will re-inforce good traits, but it will make bad traits worse as well.

To Michealinn84. That post of yours is EXACTLY why I am so hesitant to post here anymore. I'm just trying to steer someone clear of some of the mistakes I have made, and provide factual information. BTW, you mis-spelled "Brahma" in your signature line. I don't guess that should disqualify you from being an expert.

Tim Lindenborn

I totally love the direct approach for getting advice I would rather someone be honest with me than not tell me everything & make a HUGE mistake with my birds. So basically go and have the roo be chosen & put in with the girls. And then with them closer to my goal than go and line breed? Are ALL your birds wing banded? Does it hurt them? Which bands do you use?

 

[michaelinnc84]

Sorry Tim if I misunderstood you. Looks like I jumped the gun. I just get aggravated sometimes when people jump on others just looking for information. Looks like I assumed the wrong thing and I hope you accept my apology. Also, thanks about my signature I will fix it.

 

[Tim63]

Yes, I wing-band all my birds. I use the Jiffy 893 bands by National Band & Tag Co. This year I ordered some Orange ones with "Lindenborn 2012" on one side and numbered 1-100 on the other side. They do not hurt the birds at all.(they do complain a bit at first) You have to look for them on a mature bantam Brahma. I put the bands on as I take the chicks out of the hatcher. I have wire"pedigree pens" in my hatcher. I place the eggs from different breeding pens into the "pedigree pens" in the hatcher. I mark all my eggs in pencil with the male bird's leg band # the second I collect them. Wing band numbers are entered in the computer as soon as the chicks go to the brooder. I can tell you who all of my bird's father, grandfather etc are by checking the records on the computer. Obviously prodgeny testing is the key, so sires that do not produce high quality offspring can be removed from the breeding program.

Tim

 

[Tim63]

Sorry Tim if I misunderstood you. Looks like I jumped the gun. I just get aggravated sometimes when people jump on others just looking for information. Looks like I assumed the wrong thing and I hope you accept my apology. Also, thanks about my signature I will fix it.

Apology accepted. You are not the first to think me rude from my posts. I love Brahmas and I am just trying to help.

Tim

 

[michaelinnc84]

Thanks... Look I am new to thread and already off on the wrong foot and giving myself a bad name... :-|

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[Dirt Farmer]

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I bought LF Light Brahams from Darlene in October and she told me she got her birds from Bill Bowman.
As an aside, I went to the PPBA Stockton, CA show on Saturday and the winning LF Light Brahma Cock was jaw dropping. Very motivational. I didn't stay to the end of the judging but he had to be the best bird in the building.
I'm new to BYC but I read this thread from post #1 after getting my Brahmas. Thank you all for the information, pictures and sharing your Brahma issues.

 

[bigzio]

Welcome to BYC....quite a long read.

bigz

 

[big medicine]

Tim, don't sell yourself short, you are an outstanding old grump on here, undoubtably one of the finest examples in captivity today.

Sorry I did not catch this earlier to back you up here. But you guys used your words and worked it all out, well done.

Seriously I think one of the biggest mistakes some people make, especially if used to raising bantams or smaller breeds, is not keeping their large fowl Brahma youngsters long enough to get a true feel of their potential. There has been more than a few times I was ready to write off a youngster, but figured I had this much feed invested, what would a month or two more hurt? And was glad I waited. This seems to be particularly true with cockerels, which seem to take forever to grow out enough to judge what you may have.

 

[Tim63]

Thanks Gary.