Brahma Thread

[TNBEARCHICK]

Tim I want to thank you for your interest and help not only with us but with the breed itself. I have 1 Brahma light, now only one light Brahma bantam and 1 Buff Brahma bantam we absolutely love them, while I can not do it on the level of some folks I am trying to breed towards the standard on all my birds. I will appreciate your help as I post pics, let me know what you suggest to do as I go. I will be buying a standard and joining this year. Lords will. I love all my birds and am continually trying to improve living conditions and safety(darn coyote

) anyways I do have project Brahmas that I also love. I think the are so adorable, I will continue to try and breeed them towards the Brahma standard and would love your input.

thanks Steve

 

[TNBEARCHICK]

On a lighter note, I had the most delicious roast Cockerel, Silver Laced Brahma last night, and people say Brahmas are not good meat birds. The guy was 5 months old and 6 lb dressed.

I don't know how perfect or close to the standard that bird is but it looks perfect how did it taste give us details

 

[big medicine]

Tim I got to give you props for sticking with this.

By the time I saw all this, and thought about how to add my two cents to all the reactions with out getting it locked up, it was locked up. Sorry for not having your back there.

I am glad to see some folks appreciate the effort you put into this.

I have got to the point I rarely post here anymore because alot of these posters just want to hear how cute and sweet their birds are. Now if we were to open a thread for "Grumpy Old Brahma Breeders, - enter at your own risk ! " where we could honestly discuss the merits of indivdual birds and breeding programs with out somebody getting their knickers in a twist and running to the principle, I am in.

 

[sharron]

You're trying to get me in trouble again Don. Its odd that the male bird has too much black in his back and cape area....and seems to be under colored in the saddle? From a show/breeding standpoint, the excess black in the male's back would be reason to cull.(IMHO according to my study and understanding of the standard) He would pass that to females in my experience. The standard calls for the wing to be small and carried high, primaries closely folded under secondaries. He may be just relaxed in the photo though. The primaries should not be visible. The female has too much black in her cape also. I don't think that would be covered by her hackles when she stands up straight. The birds do appear to be young yet...little spur developement on the male and tails not fully in on either. What do you think Don?

 

[sharron]

Tim I got to give you props for sticking with this.

By the time I saw all this, and thought about how to add my two cents to all the reactions with out getting it locked up, it was locked up. Sorry for not having your back there.

I am glad to see some folks appreciate the effort you put into this.

I have got to the point I rarely post here anymore because alot of these posters just want to hear how cute and sweet their birds are. Now if we were to open a thread for "Grumpy Old Brahma Breeders, - enter at your own risk ! " where we could honestly discuss the merits of indivdual birds and breeding programs with out somebody getting their knickers in a twist and running to the principle, I am in.

i for one would definitely subscribe to this one

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Grumpy vs "Sarcastic" there is a difference. I will not be following this thread anylonger.

 

[snowbird]

Grumpy vs "Sarcastic" there is a difference. I will not be following this thread anylonger.

Tim, If you remember I live very close to Bill Mayer and where Bill Bowman and knew both of these Brahma people for many years. Bill Bowman would cull anything with the Black on the back front regardless if it was covered by the Cape. James Harris and Harold Miller did the same. Now I have used a few of the spotted back female in a breeding pen before if I was looking for more color in the undercolor. Most of these spotted back female have a very dark slate undercolor. You are right that they should not be discounted if the Cape covers the spotting. When Brahma are single tier caged at show have you seen a judge looking over the top of the cage down at the back, he is looking to see if the cape is covering the Black

The wing on the male is most likely split , weak, or Twisted would have to open by hand. In a show most judge would take their judging stick and move the wing and get them to close it up if it was weak. The others problems would show up when handled.

Keep up the good work you are doing for the Brahma. I am in if anyone wants to start a thread dedicated to the SOP type Brahma where oldtimer can say what they believe without someone running for the principal.

 

[dak]

Tim I got to give you props for sticking with this.

By the time I saw all this, and thought about how to add my two cents to all the reactions with out getting it locked up, it was locked up. Sorry for not having your back there.

I am glad to see some folks appreciate the effort you put into this.

I have got to the point I rarely post here anymore because alot of these posters just want to hear how cute and sweet their birds are. Now if we were to open a thread for "Grumpy Old Brahma Breeders, - enter at your own risk ! " where we could honestly discuss the merits of indivdual birds and breeding programs with out somebody getting their knickers in a twist and running to the principle, I am in.

Tim and I were praising your wisdom and restraint.

Start the thread (on SBB).

 

[dak]

Tim, If you remember I live very close to Bill Mayer and where Bill Bowman and knew both of these Brahma people for many years. Bill Bowman would cull anything with the Black on the back front regardless if it was covered by the Cape. James Harris and Harold Miller did the same. Now I have used a few of the spotted back female in a breeding pen before if I was looking for more color in the undercolor. Most of these spotted back female have a very dark slate undercolor. You are right that they should not be discounted if the Cape covers the spotting. When Brahma are single tier caged at show have you seen a judge looking over the top of the cage down at the back, he is looking to see if the cape is covering the Black

The wing on the male is most likely split , weak, or Twisted would have to open by hand. In a show most judge would take their judging stick and move the wing and get them to close it up if it was weak. The others problems would show up when handled.

Keep up the good work you are doing for the Brahma. I am in if anyone wants to start a thread dedicated to the SOP type Brahma where oldtimer can say what they believe without someone running for the principal.

With that cockerel having too much Black on his back and under colored in the saddle area, do you think he will develop the black ticking on his chest after his first adult molt? Is this seen in LF like I have seen in my Bantams?

 

[Snapnzap]

Chickens are like art work. I personally hate modern art but a lot of people have it hanging all over their house. Just like art, chickens seem to be worth what people pay for them and you need to have some confidence in what you like! (because some won't like it at all) If you are looking for show birds then you have to follow the standards but if you just want some pretty birds to stick in the coop then who cares what the art critics say I personally like to hear all the various opinions about my birds and I hope we can stay a well rounded group and don't get shut down or abandoned