Brahma Thread

[snowbird]

With that cockerel having too much Black on his back and under colored in the saddle area, do you think he will develop the black ticking on his chest after his first adult molt? Is this seen in LF like I have seen in my Bantams?

I believe what we have here is some hatchery Brahma since the lack of color in the saddle. I do believe you are right about the black showing up in the chest area as that is mostly related to dark undercolor. I have used some of the Female with the mealiness on their backs to add color to the males side. The main reason we do not see many cock birds in show is we mostly are mating for the good colored females and the male will usually be colored too much. I have always bred for females and Males and it is really hard to get good ones in both if you are showing in tough competition. Then this requires Double mating them.

 

[dak]

I believe what we have here is some hatchery Brahma since the lack of color in the saddle. I do believe you are right about the black showing up in the chest area as that is mostly related to dark undercolor. I have used some of the Female with the mealiness on their backs to add color to the males side. The main reason we do not see many cock birds in show is we mostly are mating for the good colored females and the male will usually be colored too much. I have always bred for females and Males and it is really hard to get good ones in both if you are showing in tough competition. Then this requires Double mating them.

I guess I can show them as cockerels. Is it just me or does it seem like female bantams win more than males? I have seen this in Cochins too.

 

[snowbird]

I guess I can show them as cockerels. Is it just me or does it seem like female bantams win more than males? I have seen this in Cochins too.

Yes, you are right the female Bantams in Brahma and cochins usually win more than the male. I can remember showing at the Brahma National at Connersville, Indiana and there was only 6-7 Buff Brahma cock birds entered and over 100 pullets . Will say this it is possible to breed a good Buff show male. The young pullets at point of lay are hard to beat. I had a very good Buff male once that I showed until he was six year old.

 

[oshun55555]

Tim I got to give you props for sticking with this.

By the time I saw all this, and thought about how to add my two cents to all the reactions with out getting it locked up, it was locked up. Sorry for not having your back there.

I am glad to see some folks appreciate the effort you put into this.

I have got to the point I rarely post here anymore because alot of these posters just want to hear how cute and sweet their birds are. Now if we were to open a thread for "Grumpy Old Brahma Breeders, - enter at your own risk ! " where we could honestly discuss the merits of indivdual birds and breeding programs with out somebody getting their knickers in a twist and running to the principle, I am in.

Big Medicine I love the idea of the grumpy old men thing, I have been raising hatchery birds for 50 years and in the last 2 years raising some quality Bramas and would appreciate all the critsism I can get, the only way I learn. I don't have patience for chicken butt kissing and watching tv with my flock. Why don't you open the thread, I will be there with pictures to be critiqued.

 

[aaajjss1]

Is there a post on here about what lf light Brahma should look like? I want to bred the highest quality birds possible, so i need to read yo on breed standard

 

[dak]

Yes, you are right the female Bantams in Brahma and cochins usually win more than the male. I can remember showing at the Brahma National at Connersville, Indiana and there was only 6-7 Buff Brahma cock birds entered and over 100 pullets . Will say this it is possible to breed a good Buff show male. The young pullets at point of lay are hard to beat. I had a very good Buff male once that I showed until he was six year old.

You wouldn't happen to have a pic of this Buff cock would you? Are there any significant color/pattern changes in the 2-6 year range?

 

[oshun55555]

Quote: He did have longer drumsticks, you can't see the string but he is trussed and that pulled his legs in quite a bit, he was not any heavier than the other 20 I killed along with him. I do notice that feeding them fermented feeds has made my boys meatier than they have been in the past.
Can you share how you ferment? please??
I have been raising chicken for a long time and had my doubts about fermented feed, well i tried it about a year and half ago, I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks. They lay like crazy and fatten up for the table reall nice. Here is the link to the fermented feed thread. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/644300/fermenting-feed-for-meat-birds

 

[snowbird]

You wouldn't happen to have a pic of this Buff cock would you? Are there any significant color/pattern changes in the 2-6 year range?

The Buff Male came down with LT at the last show he was in down in Ohio and I could not save him. I never took pictures over the years so now do not have pictures to show. I believe my Buff Bantams were a very good male line.

I have acquired some of my old line of Brahma bantams and will be hatching chicks again in the spring.

 

[snowbird]

Is there a post on here about what lf light Brahma should look like? I want to bred the highest quality birds possible, so i need to read yo on breed standard

Post #4964 shows a female light Brahma with what we should be breeding for in the future.

 

[TNBEARCHICK]

i for one would definitely subscribe to this one

ME TOO BUT I also see the need for both, sometimes u just want to have fun