Brahma Thread

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Our Bantam buffs have all had very great temperaments.

 

[Chickengirl1304]

Does anyone know how the breeding works with the blue/gold partridge brahma?

Is it like bbs?

 

[Tim63]

How are the banty buffs as broodys??? Whats you guys experience with them?

Its kind of a problem with mine. They ALL tend to go broody before I'm done hatching. Of course they quit laying once they are broody. We use them to hatch my Son's Cornish eggs. Oddly enough, very seldom do any of my Lights go broody?

Tim

 

[big medicine]

Does anyone know how the breeding works with the blue/gold partridge brahma?

Is it like bbs?

The what would be black feathers on a partridge pattern works exactly the same blue/black/splash. Somewhat more complicated maintaining the proper base color and penciling of the pattern.

 

[big medicine]

I'm not big medicine, but know the book answer to your questions.

When crossing a Gold based bird to a silver based bird the first generation is sex linked based on the male. So a gold partridge male to a dark female would give you gold partridge pullets and Dark cockerels. and vice versa for a Dark male over Gold Partridge pullets. If you use a Blue Gold Partridge, the results would be the same except 50% would be the Blue variant (Either Blue Gold Partridge or Silver Blue Pencilled or whatever you would call a Dark with the blue gene added) and 50% would be the "black variant" (Either Gold Partridge or Dark)

As a whole it seems right now, judging from show reports and such across the country, in Large Fowl the Light and Dark are both pretty good, in bantams the Light and Buff are doing well. It's the Bantam Darks that are famous for vulture hock problems. I can't recall the last time I saw a large fowl of the recognized colors with vulture hocks.

So, I'm getting in the mood to set up the incubator and am trying to decide what I want to buy. If I put a blue/gold partridge over a dark, what would I get? What about the opposite, a dark over a blue/gold partridge? I'm sure that big medicine will be able to answer my question, he's the bomb when it comes to breeding.

Also, which of the colors tend to have the best breed characteristics? I've read that darks tend to have vulture hocks, lights tend to be lighter and that the buffs are the best for type. Any thoughts?

I think Matt nailed it.

Might add the males will be split gold/silver from this cross, Probably looking more like a dark with some gold bleed through.

 

[BGMatt]

I think Matt nailed it.  

Might add the males will be split gold/silver from this cross, Probably looking more like a dark with some gold bleed through.

Oops. Thanks for picking up the spare there. Using a split male for breeding in future generation you'd get half and half on the pullets and half the cockerels would be split and other half would be same as their dam right?

 

[brahmabreeder]

Do you have any contact information for her? You can pm it to me if you have it. Thanks!

Best I got is she is in Michigan.

 

[big medicine]

Oops. Thanks for picking up the spare there. Using a split male for breeding in future generation you'd get half and half on the pullets and half the cockerels would be split and other half would be same as their dam right?

That's how I understand it.

But sometimes you get into stuff I need to read up on like autosaumal red, which can carry over into the silver line after crossing with gold

 

[sherrya]

I purchased some Blue and Gold Partridge eggs last year and have 4 red splash roosters. NO BLUE on these four birds at all. They will go to the rooster man. I searched the internet for pictures, but only found a few and none look like mine. IF I have both blue partridge and gold partridge and cross them will a percentage hatch splash?

I was told that since these birds have no blue on them, they cannot produce offspring with blue. I am new to genetics, so any advice will be appreciated.

I posted this same picture in one of the other Brahma threads, but didn't get very many responses.

Rooster pictured above at 3 months. Pullet on right from same breeding pen.

 

[big medicine]

I purchased some Blue and Gold Partridge eggs last year and have 4 red splash roosters. NO BLUE on these four birds at all. They will go to the rooster man. I searched the internet for pictures, but only found a few and none look like mine. IF I have both blue partridge and gold partridge and cross them will a percentage hatch splash?

I was told that since these birds have no blue on them, they cannot produce offspring with blue. I am new to genetics, so any advice will be appreciated.

I posted this same picture in one of the other Brahma threads, but didn't get very many responses.

Rooster pictured above at 3 months. Pullet on right from same breeding pen.

I'm kind of hesitant to respond here. I'm getting the feeling you don't put much stock in what I had to say over on the project thread. But I am going to give it one more shot.

The cockerel in the first photo is a buff columbian pattern. nothing splash (or red) about him. He does not appear to carry a copy of blue, let alone the two copies required to be splash.

This male could indeed produce blue chicks, but only if mated with a blue, or splash female.

Breeding a blue partridge to a gold partridge will produce zero splash chicks. For a bird to be splash it must recieve a copy of blue from each parent. The blue partridge can pass a copy off blue to half it's chicks, your gold partridge can only pass black on to it's young. So this mating should produce roughly half blue, and half black trimmed chicks.