Breed Science-- making a new breed.

[KingD]

I have almost everything under control. Still finding out what's we are dealing with, disease wise.

Please don't waste everyone's time!
You make a new thread nearly every day describing something terrible that's happened to one of your animals.
Learn how to care for them first before you go and get anything else.

 

[raingarden]

A new breed requires a new characteristic. A new characteristic arises when an individual has a genetic mutation that is not lethal. The mutation permanently changes the genome. This called a "sport". When a sport is bred to a normal individual that novel characteristic may, or may not, be inherited. Sometimes the offspring have to be inbred to make the novel characteristic reappear.

Genetic mutations are not uncommon but the chances are the mutation will not be noticeable, or it will be lethal or it will make the organism less fit and less likely to survive. A mutation that results in the offspring being more fit, or more likely to survive, or more attractive, is unusual. They are as hard to find as a needle in the haystack.

There are mutagenic chemicals that increase the incidence of mutations. But still, the only way to find a usable sport is to look at a lot of chickens and be prepared to isolate possible candidates.

 

[Aapomp831]

I just thought of a terducken! It's a turkey, chicken, duck.

That’s not a thing either. That’s a culinary thing - you cook the three together. Please don’t breed your chickens. Please.

 

[Aapomp831]

I'm having a really hard time believing what I'm reading. This is a genetics discussion board. If you were "joking" then this thread has no business here. If you weren't, then you really need to have some common courtesy for other members and do a simple google search before making these kinds of posts.

Amen.

 

[MysteryChicken]

If you want to make a chicken that has a resemblance to an owl, I'd suggest taking some Quail D'Anvers, & breed to Plymouth Barred Rocks. With several rounds of breeding you should get something that looks similar to a Barred Owl, but this will take some time, lots of culling involved.
Breed these guys.

To these guys.

 

[Demonwolf37]

Creating a new breed would require years and years of research and selection. You can't just hybrid two species together and call it a new breed.

For starters, the hybrid would likely be infertile, as others have said. You wouldn't be able to produce anymore generations. Additionally, most hybrid animals have a lot of health issues that make them difficult to keep, and many die far younger than they would if they weren't hybrids.

If you wanted to create a new breed, you would first need to spend several years researching chicken genetics and understanding what exactly you're trying to produce, and what genes affect that.

You would need to keep hundreds of chickens over the course of probably 10+ years, and cull (kill) most of them, to even get close to a new breed.

As someone who's in the planning phase for a new breed, I'd definitely recommend getting your flock back to 100%, and doing research in the meantime. After your flock is no longer in the red, and you've got a good understanding of chicken genetics, THEN you can revisit your idea of a new breed and start making actual plans based on the knowledge you've gained.

Until then, focus on the birds you already have and make sure they're healthy and happy before considering adding new birds into the mix

 

[Mutchi]

If you want to make a chicken that has a resemblance to an owl, I'd suggest taking some Quail D'Anvers, & breed to Plymouth Barred Rocks. With several rounds of breeding you should get something that looks similar to a Barred Owl, but this will take some time, lots of culling involved.
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Those chickens are so pretty

 

[MysteryChicken]

Those chickens are so pretty

Yes they are.
I'd also suggest getting the Heritage Plymouth Barred Rocks, not the regular hatchery stock though.

 

[Mutchi]

Yes they are.
I'd also suggest getting the Heritage Plymouth Barred Rocks, not the regular hatchery stock though.

Ok.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Ok.

You also mentioned a muscular rooster, so I'd get either Malays, or Black Sumatras for that detail.