Brown eggs have less cholesterol

[luvmygirlsinAK]

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You could cook that dish for me!!! I'd eat it-sounds delicious-low heat is fine-it's when it smokes that it causes problems. Sounds absolutely wonderful!!!

Seriously--it's fantastic. And such an easy way to prepare savory sweet potatoes, without sugar or marshmallows or gunk.

You just grate the sweet potatoes (10 seconds w/a food processor), and sautee them in a bit of olive oil until they're just tender. It takes only minutes. Meanwhile, melt butter over med-low heat until it browns, at which point you add some whole sage leaves and fresh crushed garlic cloves. When the potatoes are done, you salt & pepper to taste, then pour over the browned butter (removing the sage leaves and garlic hunks first), and serve immediately. Use as much or as little butter as you like--it doesn't take a whole lot. 1/4 cup is plenty for 4 cups of sweet potatoes.

Ohhhh!! Why did I have to read that when I was hungry? Sounds absolutely wonderful. I have some sweet potatoes on order through our co-op, and will definitely try that recipe!!!

Lot's of butter, of course!!

 

[bluey]

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Just because I hate to let this stuff go, the above statements aren't exactly 100% accurate.

Wifezilla is correct with her first statement. About 3/4s of your cholesterol is made by your body (in your liver) using any carbon based nutrients that are ingested. The remaining 1/4 is from the cholesterol that is ingested. Everyone is genetically different with how much cholesterol their body produces. This is why the AHA doesn't broadcast that fact. Might as well try to limit the kind of cholesterol you can control as opposed to what you can't.

The second statement about eating foods high in cholesterol not giving you high cholesterol is inaccurate. Again, genetically, different folks clear cholesterol out of their system at different rates. Folks with high density lipoprotein (HDL) will tend to clear out cholesterol faster since these particles are more protein than fat, hence their ability to gather fat and ferry them to the liver. Folks with low HDL and higher low density lipoprotein (LDL) will find their cholesterol has a tendency to accumulate in blood vessels. So, to sum up...genetics plays a huge role as well as inflammation, but I'll discuss that later. But I assure you, a person with a genetic tendency towards high cholesterol will exascerbate it on a high cholesterol diet.

BTW, one egg contains about 2/3 of the RDA of dietary cholesterol unless those numbers changed recently.

The third statement, eating foods with high carbohydrate gives you high cholesterol is very misleading since the body will use any carbon based nutrient to make cholesterol. Folks who have genetic factors that favor cholesterol clearing and those that regularly exercise will not get high cholesterol from high carb diets. The body is made to run on carbs and simple sugars and will burn these off first usually. Think of carbs and sugars as gasoline and fats as motor oil, where some breakdown is necessary before it becomes an adequate fuel. For sedentary folks and those genetically predisposed, yes, the statement could absolutely be true.

Wifezilla's last statement is also very misleading. People have to remember that no one dies from high cholesterol. Cholesterol is only one variable in the inflammation cascade that results in the clogging of the arteries in heart disease. Say, you wanted to dam up a small stream. Of course the first thing you'd look for is sticks, rocks, etc... to do the job. Think of cholesterol as the sticks and rocks. The real culprit of heart disease is the body's inflammatory response which could be caused by just about any injury, tooth and gum disease, sickness, smoking etc... The inflammatory response is systemic (affecting the whole body) and is what makes vulnerable parts of blood vessels sticky and allow the cholesterol to lodge itself. The blood vessel actually "heals itself" narrower or closed using cholesterol to form plaque.

Last I checked, women die from coronary events, so cholesterol does matter. Mortality rates are very misleading and don't paint a true picture of what is really going on.

So, in summation, cholesterol is not evil, it's the building blocks of tissue and used for repair. It's just dangerous when it's "repairing" blood vessels.

Lastly, because someone mentioned strokes. Strokes are mainly caused by unregulated high blood pressure over long periods of time which make the blood vessels in the brain prone to damage.

Okay, just wanted to set the record straight. Apologies to Wifezilla from a former biochemist that just couldn't keep his big fat trap shut.

 

[Wifezilla]

Cholesterol doesn't cause the coronary events. Cholesterol repairs blood vessels because they are being damaged. You have to stop the damage. The damage is caused by a diet high in carbohydrates.

"High serum cholesterol levels often indicate that the body needs cholesterol to protect itself from high levels of altered, free-radical-containing fats. Just as a large police force is needed in a locality where crime occurs frequently, so cholesterol is needed in a poorly nourished body to protect the individual from a tendency to heart disease and cancer. Blaming coronary heart disease on cholesterol is like blaming the police for murder and theft in a high crime area."
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html

"Cholesterol is used by our bodies to repair lesions in the arteries. Dr. Mary Enig, fat researcher, suggests that blaming cholesterol for heart disease is something like blaming firefighters for starting fires. Is it really a good idea to reduce our arteries' firefighters? The key to stopping heart disease is to stop the lesions (fires) in the arteries from occurring in the first place, by minimizing glycation by eating less sugar and high fructose corn syrup, and minimizing free radical damage by not consuming refined and therefore rancid vegetable oils AND by reducing systemic stress.

Our bodies consider cholesterol to be so essential to our survival, that every cell in our body can manufacture it as needed. If we eat little or no cholesterol, our bodies manufacture more, and if we eat a lot, our bodies don't manufacture as much. This way our cholesterol levels maintain homeostasis irrespective of our diet, and this is the reason it is so difficult to reduce or raise cholesterol levels much with diet alone.

Dr. Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD, who wrote the book The Cholesterol Myths, goes through study after study destroying the idea that high cholesterol levels are the cause of heart disease. In the Framingham heart study done near Boston that spanned 30 years , the researchers concluded that high cholesterol was a risk factor for heart disease, but when one really dissects the data, one must question how they came to that conclusion. For example, when the participants of the study are plotted on a graph it clearly shows that those with cholesterol levels between 182 and 222 did not survive as long as those with higher cholesterol levels of between 222 and 261. The study shows that about half the people with heart disease had low cholesterol, and half the people without heart disease had high cholesterol.

Most studies have found that for women, high cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease at all - in fact, the death rate for women is five times higher in those with very low cholesterol. In a Canadian study that followed 5000 healthy middle-aged men for 12 years, they found that high cholesterol was not associated with heart disease at all. And in another study done at the University Hospital in Toronto that looked at cholesterol levels in 120 men that previously had heart attacks, they found that just as many men that had second heart attacks had low cholesterol levels as those that had high. The Maoris of New Zealand die of heart attacks frequently, irrespective of their cholesterol levels. In Russia, it is low cholesterol levels that are associated with increased heart disease."
http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/04/13/high_cholesterol_does_not_cause_heart_disease

 

[luvmygirlsinAK]

I agee, wifezilla, high cholesterol levels have nothing to do with heart disease!!! EAT YOUR EGGS PEOPLE!!!! They will make you healthy!!! Doctors put people on cholesterol lowering drugs all the time-the result? Memory loss, and a whole myriad of symptoms leading to premature death because their cholesterol levels are far too low!!! Study after study has been done on this, and still, medical doctors prescribe drugs for their patients that have nothing to do with heart disease, just because this is what they learned in medical school!!! I believe doctors are sincere in their desire to help, it's just that they are sincerely WRONG!!!

Because I want to stay alive, and have the quality of life I want, I will NEVER let a doctor prescribe me a cholesterol lowering drug!!!!! Read the FACTS people, not just the stuff the pharmaceutical companies want you to believe-THEY funded the studies, and help fund the FDA--who are you going to believe?!!!

Have seen what cholesterol lowering drugs has done to friends who are older than me and insist that their doctor knows what he is doing-and have seen their quality of life go way down, forgetting to lock the doors of the store where we worked together even though they had worked there 5 days a week for the last 5 years, or forgetting to count the till, and turn the lights out at the store before going home, once they were on the drugs!!!!!! No wonder there are so many "Alzheimers" and "Dementia" patients!!! One of my friends started falling asleep at the wheel, fortunately, many times she was able to pull to the side of the road just before conking out!! Numerous times I would watch this particular person (a different one from the first one) pull into a store parking lot, and completely conk out, sometimes she would manage to open the door partially just before it happened, ready to get out of the car and go into the grocery store, and then lean forward suddenly, totally asleep, head on the steering wheel!!! Every time I managed to be there to see this, I was so frightened for her-when was she going to listen to me and get off the cholesterol drugs before she caused an accident and killed herself, or someone else!! She insisted that her doctor knew what was best for her!!! This is serious!!! Study this out-don't just leave your life in the hands of someone else!!! Many lives have been saved because people have studied things out before allowing a certain drug be put into their body.

Get information from Health Alert on this and many other heart issues. Many heart palpitations can be solved just by giving the patient B vitamins from whole food sources. My mother has celiac disease. When we first found out about it, her heart started pounding from lack of nutrition, (the celiac disease wasn't allowing her body to absorb any nutrition) I had read what Dr. West had said on the heart in Health Alert, and so I gave her the B vitamins from whole food sources under her tongue since she couldn't absorb them by just swallowing them. The result was dramatic her heart quit pounding, until it was out of her system 4 hours later, and I gave her more, until eventually we were able to stabalize her heart beat. Today, she is much, much better, and lives a normal life at 82 years old. She is on no prescription drugs at all, and gets around like someone much younger. All of her friends her age are on this pill for this ailment, and this one to counteract the side affects of that one and then on another pill to counteract the side affect from the last pill, etc, etc. They are in wheel chairs and go to the doctor all the time because of this.

My mom's sister and her husband were always so proud that they always went "to the best doctors" (they had the money to go to anyone they wanted to) and today although slightly younger than my mom, my aunt and uncle still go to "the best
doctors, only now it is once a week for both of them!!! They are enslaved because they didn't study things out and laughed at us when we recommended alternatives to the drugs. I would never trade the quality of my mom's life for her sister who lives in a beautiful expensive home, but now cannot enjoy it, or do the entertaining they once did.

I hope this encourages others to do some studying.

 

[modenacart]

Since I have been eating brown eggs for the last few years, the white eggs seem sickly to me. I guess the lack of color I don't know. I know they are the same.

 

[bluey]

Cholesterol doesn't cause the coronary events.

Nowhere in my explanation did I say that cholesterol caused coronary events. Cholesterol, however is a very important variable in the overall heart disease matrix. If you wish to discount the fact that cholesterol is an intergral component of coronary plaque, feel free to continue to deceive yourself.

However, cholesterol, by itself, I agree is ridiculously villified. It is a very necessary building block for structure and repair.

My point is that you cannot discount any of the variables at play in the development of heart disease and should not be making claims to folks that cholesterol plays no part, no matter what you personally believe to be true.

I am also not sold on statins for cholesterol lowering. I do find merit in the statin/dementia argument.​

 

[ams3651]

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I am also not sold on statins for cholesterol lowering. I do find merit in the statin/dementia argument.

they work for me

didnt this thread start off talking about eggs

 

[Wifezilla]

Last I checked, women die from coronary events, so cholesterol does matter.

That was the statement that led to my comment.

didnt this thread start off talking about eggs

Hard to talk about eggs without mentioning cholesterol. They used to tell us cholesterol is evil and some people still believe it

 

[B. Saffles Farms]

Well Im 29. Pretty healthy or so I thought. And NO heart disease in my family. I have HIGH Cholesterol, and coranary artery disease. I had a heart attack a few months back. With a 95% blocked artery, Caused by HIGH Cholesterol. Since then I have been on a low fat, low cholesterol diet, and been taking cholesterol lowering meds. Everytime Ive had my cholesterol checked since my heart attack it has been much lower. Eggs do cause your cholesterol to rise. At least it does in the people I know.

Edited for spelling.

 

[redhen]

okay..so now i am confused....why did the doctor put my mother on lipator(sp?) then?....her levels were high...he felt she needed the meds....i mean there HAS to be some connection between high cholesterol and strokes and heart disease.......and before you say..doctors just want to make money..hence the prescriptions......not this doctor..*although..ALOT do..i agree!*....but..this doctor is not like this...(trust my judgement on it)...so...what would be his reason to give her meds then?...there was a reason he wanted her cholesterol levels down...