I agree though with the dislike of hatchery Buff Orpingtons, although I adore the English ones. They're such a deviation from what the English or American lines should look like. It's so sad to me that the same process is happening to the lavenders as well. Scrawny birds lacking in the defining characteristics of Orpingtons. The naming thing is also annoying, it's the same deal with Barred Rocks. They group the variety/breed together in their minds, not understanding that it is just a breed and it's variety is a secondary characteristic.