BYC Café

[Bamabexchicks]

Good morning Cafe.
Coffee is one the stove.
Curiosity has got the better of me and I'm away down the village to hear the gossip regarding the dog shootings.
I sold two lamps last night.

Sorry I didnt even congratulate you on selling your lamps; rude of me!

 

[Shadrach]

As far as I can gather a smallholder up the mountains heard a disturbance and went out to see what the problem was. Two dogs that he had had problems with before were in with his sheep and lambs.
One dog was trying to drag the lamb away. The sheep had panicked. While he was trying to resue the lamb he got bitten by the dog. He went inside, got his rifle and shot both dogs. He has one dead lamb and one ewe with a broken leg.
There is a recently built group of houses up there. Out of the eight houses built only two are occupied full time. The others are weekend places. Five of the houses have dogs which are supposed to guard the houses when the owners are not there. These dogs get out of the grounds and run around creating havoc, killing chickens, ducks and at some point broke into a rabbit shed and killed loads of rabbits.
The smallholders tried to have a meeting last weekend with the people who own the houses. One of the small holders was assaulted by one of the owners and another bitten by one of the guard dogs set on him by the owners.
The smallholders had a meeting on their own and decided any stray dogs found on the small holding were to be shot on site. I've been told the smallholders are now armed and guarding their livestock.
I'm not very sure just how the law workd here but apparently you are entitled to shoot any animal you catch worrying your livestock. What is defined as 'worrying' seems a bit vague.
The police and Park Wardens were up there today trying to catch and impound the rest of the 'guard' dogs. There are apparently, or rather were an estimated 13 dogs.
All the 'holiday' properties are fenced while the farms and smallholdings are not.
There is no trespass law here as such and the local people are rather proud of this. It means that you can go onto anyone's farm and as long as you do no damage you are welcome.
The fenced properties have annoyed the locals form the outset and some say there has been some deliberate incursions into the fenced properties and the owners are saying this is why the fences are no longer secure enough to contain the dogs.
However, most of the farms and smallholdings have dogs but these dogs are farm dogs and tend not to stray out of the farm boundaries and of course are animal friendly, much like the dogs here.

 

[007Sean]

Morning Cafe

Thanks for the coffee.

Sean, that recipe... "as tender as a mother's love" Those aren't my words Debby, another recipe for baking chicken starts out, "First you find a young hen, then you wring it's neck.
Old time cowboy cookbooks

Tonya - hope the weather cooperates today.

Shad - glad you sold some lamps. Hope your 'running loose' dogs situation gets better.

Cap - sorry to hear of all your going through.

GAC - you need to put an alarm on your cookie jar! or a mouse trap on top of the cookies.

Everyone make it a great day!

 

[N F C]

As far as I can gather a smallholder up the mountains heard a disturbance and went out to see what the problem was. Two dogs that he had had problems with before were in with his sheep and lambs.
One dog was trying to drag the lamb away. The sheep had panicked. While he was trying to resue the lamb he got bitten by the dog. He went inside, got his rifle and shot both dogs. He has one dead lamb and one ewe with a broken leg.
There is a recently built group of houses up there. Out of the eight houses built only two are occupied full time. The others are weekend places. Five of the houses have dogs which are supposed to guard the houses when the owners are not there. These dogs get out of the grounds and run around creating havoc, killing chickens, ducks and at some point broke into a rabbit shed and killed loads of rabbits.
The smallholders tried to have a meeting last weekend with the people who own the houses. One of the small holders was assaulted by one of the owners and another bitten by one of the guard dogs set on him by the owners.
The smallholders had a meeting on their own and decided any stray dogs found on the small holding were to be shot on site. I've been told the smallholders are now armed and guarding their livestock.
I'm not very sure just how the law workd here but apparently you are entitled to shoot any animal you catch worrying your livestock. What is defined as 'worrying' seems a bit vague.
The police and Park Wardens were up there today trying to catch and impound the rest of the 'guard' dogs. There are apparently, or rather were an estimated 13 dogs.
All the 'holiday' properties are fenced while the farms and smallholdings are not.
There is no trespass law here as such and the local people are rather proud of this. It means that you can go onto anyone's farm and as long as you do no damage you are welcome.
The fenced properties have annoyed the locals form the outset and some say there has been some deliberate incursions into the fenced properties and the owners are saying this is why the fences are no longer secure enough to contain the dogs.
However, most of the farms and smallholdings have dogs but these dogs are farm dogs and tend not to stray out of the farm boundaries and of course are animal friendly, much like the dogs here.

I'd have to side with the smallholders on how they're handling it. SSS seems the appropriate response.

 

[Shadrach]

Yeah, the 'holiday' houses and their part time occupants are not on my favorites list. I see them in the villages and on the roads. Too much money and very little respect for anything except more money.
I know one of the local guys who takes care of the animals (not the dogs) for a couple of the houses.
He has some horror stories about the treatment of the animals. There is a poney at one of the houses. They bought it for their daughter who had a bad case of the 'I wants'. The pony is kept in a shed that is so small it cant turn around in it.
This guy takes the pony out for an hour, or so a day.

 

[room onthebroom]

Who leaves animals alone like that? Who feeds these dogs all week while the owners are gone?

 

[Shadrach]

Who leaves animals alone like that? Who feeds these dogs all week while the owners are gone?

I know one of the houses has a gate feeder system because I know the guy that takes them the food. I don't know what happens with the others.
I've only been up there a couple of times. It's super creepy. A group of fenced houses in the middle of nowhere with security cameras and guard dogs and a tarmacked piece of road so they don't damaged their posh cars.
It's just people with money. Much the same all over the world.

 

[N F C]

Sounds like a sad situation for all the animals involved Shad...sad for the ones left to their own devices and sad for those that bear the burden of coping with unmanaged "pets".

 

[ShrekDawg]

Who leaves animals alone like that? Who feeds these dogs all week while the owners are gone?

X2. I must say I feel pretty bad for the animals. I mean, obviously I feel bad for the farmers too and if the dogs are causing that many problems, and killing livestock and even attacking people, them something definitely needs to be done, but one does have to wonder if the dogs aren’t just starving from not being fed all week. maybe they do feed them, idk, but I wonder if the others are being fed.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Yeah, the 'holiday' houses and their part time occupants are not on my favorites list. I see them in the villages and on the roads. Too much money and very little respect for anything except more money.
I know one of the local guys who takes care of the animals (not the dogs) for a couple of the houses.
He has some horror stories about the treatment of the animals. There is a poney at one of the houses. They bought it for their daughter who had a bad case of the 'I wants'. The pony is kept in a shed that is so small it cant turn around in it.
This guy takes the pony out for an hour, or so a day.

The poor pony sounds like a bunch of ignorant jerks