BYC Café

[DobieLover]

I am told by an Italian I know and from some Italian blogs that if you have underlying health problems (I don't know which problems and I don't know if age is a factor) and get the virus the Italian hospitals will not treat you. I don't expect this piece of information will be well publicized.

I read the same thing on FB.

 

[DobieLover]

Good morning Cafe.
I hope all are healthy and in good spirits this morning after the long discussions about the world pandemic last night. It does tend to weigh on the mind no matter how hard you try to go on with normal life.

 

[Perris]

morning all ; grey and drizzling here. The chickens look like wet rags, poor things.

I plan to go out later for milk, dog- and chicken- food; will report back on how it's looking here. Dentists are still open for check-ups and treatments but not cleaning. Some supermarkets are reserving their first hour of operation in the day for the elderly and are putting them to the head of queues for online orders and deliveries, both good moves I think given the selfishness of some of the most fit and able in our societies, who barge the less fit and able out of their way in the aisles, as they do in the car park (you know the type, the ones who park their Chelsea tractors in the disabled bays cos the rules don't apply to them).

 

[Shadrach]

Does it mellow even more in the bottle or does it halt that once taken out of the casks?

I don't know. I imagine it must some.

 

[Shadrach]

I've been shopping. I even found four rolls of toilet paper!
The town I went to is very very quiet. I don't do supermarkets if I can avoid them.
The fruit and vegetable shop I go to in this town is owned by a Peruvian family. The shop I found the toilet roll in is owned by a Moroccan man. I get meat, dates, okra, coconut, and spices from him. I hope he manages to keep afloat.
I've got beans, tomatoes, onions and courgettes planted and I've been up on the ridge getting some rosehip bush cuttings with half a cubic meter of the soil they grow in. Although the ridge is only 50 meters further up the mountain the soil is quite different. I'm hoping if I plant in some soil take from there the cuttings will take.

 

[Mtn Margie]

Good morning and thanks for the coffee. We are going to have beautiful weather for about half of the day and then a winter storm hits with a foot or so of snow predicted and winds.
Oh well. At least the sheep have had a few days of tolerable to get used to not having their warm coats on.
Shad, I have heard of the situation in Italy and I know it is being watched and studied to try and not have the same thing happen here. Fingers crossed! It is heartbreaking to think that it is happening at all...

 

[sourland]

Good morning Cafe - fresh coffee for all.

 

[Bunnylady]

Mornin', y'all!

Cloudy and a little bit foggy this morning, but supposed to be sunny later. Woke up with a splitting headache; a little caffeine to help wash the painkillers down never goes amiss.

Shad, I agree with your logic; if the cuttings were happy where they grew, trying to keep conditions as close to the same as possible will hopefully make them happy in their new home.

When it comes to groceries, I pretty much have to do supermarkets or go without. Within a couple of miles of my house, I get to choose between major chains like Walmart, Publix, and Aldi, or more local chains like Harris Teeter and Food Lion (which, I understand, are now owned by some international mega-company, but at least some of their product is produced locally). During warmer months, there is a farm stand where I often buy vegetables, but since they often have fruit and vegetables that I know are out of season for this area, even they only partly count in the "support your local grower" movement.

Our governor has ordered the closing of the dining rooms of all restaurants and bars in the state, a move that has met with criticism even within his own party. On the one hand, I can see how this reduces both the chance of exposure for the patrons and staff, and reduces the area the staff will need to clean constantly, but I can also see that a lot of restaurants aren't set up for drive-up or carry-out, at least, not at that level (are we soon to see a shortage of disposable dishes and cutlery?)

 

[bruceha2000]

I read the same thing on FB.

Anytime something that seems less than likely on FB is something to research. This is one of them
Reuters article on the subject of Italy "not treating people with underlying conditions"
If you don't want to read through it, the upshot is - false.
The slightly longer version is there are more people needing ICU beds than they have even with the operating rooms being converted to ICU beds and they end up prioritizing the patients.

I don't do supermarkets if I can avoid them.
The fruit and vegetable shop I go to in this town is owned by a Peruvian family.

That is something that is mostly not possible in the USA. No fruit and vegetable shops other than Farmer's Markets and in most places that is only in the summer. Big difference when I was in Barcelona many years back and going to the big indoor fruit and veg markets every couple of days.

 

[Shadrach]

Anytime something that seems less than likely on FB is something to research. This is one of them
Reuters article on the subject of Italy "not treating people with underlying conditions"
If you don't want to read through it, the upshot is - false.
The slightly longer version is there are more people needing ICU beds than they have even with the operating rooms being converted to ICU beds and they end up prioritizing the patients.


That is something that is mostly not possible in the USA. No fruit and vegetable shops other than Farmer's Markets and in most places that is only in the summer. Big difference when I was in Barcelona many years back and going to the big indoor fruit and veg markets every couple of days.

If you dig through this site you will find a piece by a doctor talking about the 'prioritizing' of patients.
It's not a topic that is going to receive comprehensive news coverage for obvious reasons.
https://www.euronews.com/tag/italy