California - Northern

[BCollie]

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Just the thought of culling all my birds is too much to bear. I'm already broken down over this news. I love my birds so much, they are my pets...but if I can never again get new birds, never hatch out eggs like I had big plans of doing, never sell their eggs...I don't know...I can't kill my pets. I just can't do it

 

[tls_ranch]

You just addressed part of my question about totes or crates, but is the run big enough for a watermelon box for the sick ones?

Maybe. How big are watermelon crates?

 

 

 

 

I found the Tylan Soluble powder on eBay from someone with 100% positive feedback for $48 including shipping. It won't be here until June 4th, is that too long to wait?


I need an antibiotic that's approved for poultry because I do sell my eggs sometimes.

Yes, it is too long to wait.


Separate the sick ones, even if you make a pen in the yard out of old wire.


Remember to quarantine new chicks away from the flock for two weeks before integrating them. Bubbles in the eye can be bad.

I have no way to quarantine or separate. The chicken yard is to small to keep them separate, and the only other yard I have is the dog yard, both of my foster dogs want to chase my chickens so that won't work. I really have no other options. 


Since that is too long to wait to get the medication, what should I do?? I can't find any store around here that carries it

I am so sorry you are having to deal with sick chickens


It is difficult to give advice in this situation. Much depends on what illness your chickens have. If it is mycoplasma ( like MS or MG types) then only a few drugs may help. But, even if the drugs help...your chickens may remain carriers and spread mycoplasma to new flock members. The best drugs for treating mycoplasma is tylan and or denagard ( denagard is really only approved for pigs here in the USA). You can research both here on BYC. I've never used tylan, but used denagard as a preventative a few years ago because I was paranoid about wild birds etc. I've never treated birds that had respiratory illness symptoms, so my advice is not expert.


The problem is that it is hard to tell what illness your birds have and that is most important in regards to what drug to try. Most likely it is mycoplasma with the symptoms of foamy eyes and sneezing. But those may be just early symptom it could get worse. Sadly culling sick birds and sending them to UC Davis is the most responsible action. This may be too hard for you because they are pets. On the other hand, You may get lucky and the ill ones could recover from symptoms without treatment if it is a very mild strain of mycoplasma. They will remain carriers though. I would recommend keeping a closed flock ( no selling chicks, hatching eggs or birds).


I am sorry to give you such sad advice... Try to quarantine , be more careful visiting " chicken farms", and possibly only bring in hatching eggs from now on. Hatching eggs are a risk, but in general much safer than started birds.


Trisha

I will call all the feed stores I can find within an hour radius tomorrow and see if any of them carry Tylan.
So...no more hatching eggs/selling chicks, since I have an infected flock. That means I need to sell my brand new incubator, right? And I can never again add chicks/chickens to the flock like I'd been planning on doing...this is devestating. 

You are not the only one who has gone through this. I would wait and see what happens in the next few days. There are a few things that could cause sneezing and foamy eyes that isn't contagious/ carrier diseases. Fungal problems from mold in feed, bedding. Or Dust, ammonia etc.

You can start over... It's a little scary and sad, but something you can overcome this in time

 

[chiqita]

If you can find tylan injectable I personally find it easy to use. If you need instructions for injecting you can call me. I wish you were closer to me .

 

[BCollie]

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I have no way to quarantine or separate. The chicken yard is to small to keep them separate, and the only other yard I have is the dog yard, both of my foster dogs want to chase my chickens so that won't work. I really have no other options.


Since that is too long to wait to get the medication, what should I do?? I can't find any store around here that carries it


I am so sorry you are having to deal with sick chickens

It is difficult to give advice in this situation. Much depends on what illness your chickens have. If it is mycoplasma ( like MS or MG types) then only a few drugs may help. But, even if the drugs help...your chickens may remain carriers and spread mycoplasma to new flock members. The best drugs for treating mycoplasma is tylan and or denagard ( denagard is really only approved for pigs here in the USA). You can research both here on BYC. I've never used tylan, but used denagard as a preventative a few years ago because I was paranoid about wild birds etc. I've never treated birds that had respiratory illness symptoms, so my advice is not expert.


The problem is that it is hard to tell what illness your birds have and that is most important in regards to what drug to try. Most likely it is mycoplasma with the symptoms of foamy eyes and sneezing. But those may be just early symptom it could get worse. Sadly culling sick birds and sending them to UC Davis is the most responsible action. This may be too hard for you because they are pets. On the other hand, You may get lucky and the ill ones could recover from symptoms without treatment if it is a very mild strain of mycoplasma. They will remain carriers though. I would recommend keeping a closed flock ( no selling chicks, hatching eggs or birds).


I am sorry to give you such sad advice... Try to quarantine , be more careful visiting " chicken farms", and possibly only bring in hatching eggs from now on. Hatching eggs are a risk, but in general much safer than started birds.


Trisha
I will call all the feed stores I can find within an hour radius tomorrow and see if any of them carry Tylan.
So...no more hatching eggs/selling chicks, since I have an infected flock. That means I need to sell my brand new incubator, right? And I can never again add chicks/chickens to the flock like I'd been planning on doing...this is devestating.
You are not the only one who has gone through this. I would wait and see what happens in the next few days. There are a few things that could cause sneezing and foamy eyes that isn't contagious/ carrier diseases. Fungal problems from mold in feed, bedding. Or Dust, ammonia etc.

You can start over... It's a little scary and sad, but something you can overcome this in time

How would I start over? Would that mean killing my birds?

 

[BCollie]

If you can find tylan injectable I personally find it easy to use. If you need instructions for injecting you can call me. I wish you were closer to me

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Thank you very much. I'll see what I can find tomorrow.

 

[chiqita]

I also have controversial views on mg ms. I think it is rarely that dangerous to chickens health does make them lay less often. It is considered really bad in the us and a minor thing in the rest of the world. Denagard is also approved for chickens everywhere but the us so I am not fussed about using it.

 

[tls_ranch]

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You just addressed part of my question about totes or crates, but is the run big enough for a watermelon box for the sick ones?

Maybe. How big are watermelon crates?

 

 

 

 


I found the Tylan Soluble powder on eBay from someone with 100% positive feedback for $48 including shipping. It won't be here until June 4th, is that too long to wait?



I need an antibiotic that's approved for poultry because I do sell my eggs sometimes.

Yes, it is too long to wait.



Separate the sick ones, even if you make a pen in the yard out of old wire.



Remember to quarantine new chicks away from the flock for two weeks before integrating them. Bubbles in the eye can be bad.

I have no way to quarantine or separate. The chicken yard is to small to keep them separate, and the only other yard I have is the dog yard, both of my foster dogs want to chase my chickens so that won't work. I really have no other options. 



Since that is too long to wait to get the medication, what should I do?? I can't find any store around here that carries it

I am so sorry you are having to deal with sick chickens



It is difficult to give advice in this situation. Much depends on what illness your chickens have. If it is mycoplasma ( like MS or MG types) then only a few drugs may help. But, even if the drugs help...your chickens may remain carriers and spread mycoplasma to new flock members. The best drugs for treating mycoplasma is tylan and or denagard ( denagard is really only approved for pigs here in the USA). You can research both here on BYC. I've never used tylan, but used denagard as a preventative a few years ago because I was paranoid about wild birds etc. I've never treated birds that had respiratory illness symptoms, so my advice is not expert.



The problem is that it is hard to tell what illness your birds have and that is most important in regards to what drug to try. Most likely it is mycoplasma with the symptoms of foamy eyes and sneezing. But those may be just early symptom it could get worse. Sadly culling sick birds and sending them to UC Davis is the most responsible action. This may be too hard for you because they are pets. On the other hand, You may get lucky and the ill ones could recover from symptoms without treatment if it is a very mild strain of mycoplasma. They will remain carriers though. I would recommend keeping a closed flock ( no selling chicks, hatching eggs or birds).



I am sorry to give you such sad advice... Try to quarantine , be more careful visiting " chicken farms", and possibly only bring in hatching eggs from now on. Hatching eggs are a risk, but in general much safer than started birds.



Trisha

I will call all the feed stores I can find within an hour radius tomorrow and see if any of them carry Tylan.

So...no more hatching eggs/selling chicks, since I have an infected flock. That means I need to sell my brand new incubator, right? And I can never again add chicks/chickens to the flock like I'd been planning on doing...this is devestating. 

You are not the only one who has gone through this. I would wait and see what happens in the next few days. There are a few things that could cause sneezing and foamy eyes that isn't contagious/ carrier diseases. Fungal problems from mold in feed, bedding. Or Dust, ammonia etc.


You can start over... It's a little scary and sad, but something you can overcome this in time

How would I start over? Would that mean killing my birds?
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Treat them with tylan then follow up with denagard. I can try to PM you some info I got years ago from a breeder trying to save a very rare breed of chicken with mycoplasma. She eventually got a clean flock. I think I still have her posts saved somewhere.

This is if the illness is mycoplasma. It lurks in many flocks and often reappears during times of stress. Most just cull. But with pets it can be much harder. Your eggs in your bator could be disease free. So you might want to find a way to raise any chicks seperate from your adult birds.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

Maybe. How big are watermelon crates?


I will call all the feed stores I can find within an hour radius tomorrow and see if any of them carry Tylan.
So...no more hatching eggs/selling chicks, since I have an infected flock. That means I need to sell my brand new incubator, right? And I can never again add chicks/chickens to the flock like I'd been planning on doing...this is devestating.

keep the incubator as you won't get full price out of it and you know you are going to want it again . Id wait to see what happens with your chickens before doing anything. try and separate the congested one. it may have bubbly eye because its congested

Vetrex on the comb and wattles and legs will help ,as well. I think you have to order Denagard. I had good results from Sulmet but that is very hard on chickens but is very hi power stuff . maybe the Tetracycline is the way to go as its not as harsh

 

[capayvalleychick]

Trisha gives very good advice. Wait and see what happens. Even if they are sick, you don't have too cull if you don't want to. You can close your flock. You could sell eggs from the ones that don't have symptoms. MG is everywhere, so most flocks have been exposed.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

Treat them with tylan then follow up with denagard. I can try to PM you some info I got years ago from a breeder trying to save a very rare breed of chicken with mycoplasma. She eventually got a clean flock. I think I still have her posts saved somewhere.

This is if the illness is mycoplasma. It lurks in many flocks and often reappears during times of stress. Most just cull. But with pets it can be much harder. Your eggs in your bator could be disease free. So you might want to find a way to raise any chicks seperate from your adult birds.

it can cure it? I have heard its un curable but I like the Denagard for sure