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[lawatt]

Yes, there is a tiny bit of poop, but nothing I would think was abnormal in anyway. Vent looked healthy otherwise.

Just sent hubby down to pick up Corrid, Ivermectin, and some Pyrethrin. I like to do the organic and natural thing, but I guess sometimes I need to sacrifice that for the health of my chickies. I guess I will throw everything at it.....and hope it works.

I thought I read somewhere you are not supposed to give vitamins along with the corrid? I could have mixed that up with another treatment I read about.....so please correct me.

Oh! Wester Farms has both liquid and powder. I told my husband the liquid. Should I call him and tell him powder instead? We have a bucket/nipple watering system and I thought the liquid might be easier to distribute in it. It is a lower concentration at 9% I think, instead of the 20% powder.

i'm sure either work fine, the powder is easy to dilute into their water, and the concentration of course varies with how much water you add. i have the same kind of waterer that you do.

and i would try one thing at a time, if you can be patient -- chickens seem to have very few symptoms that can *possibly* indicate a whole array of totally different problems (like, poop on the behind could be related to mites or worms, or it could just be that she's feeling lethargic & hence not as tidy as usual) -- but pouring a bunch of different chemicals in/on could cause problems itself!

ONLY based on my own experience (which is limited) and the fact that we live fairly close to each other, i'd try the corid first, and see if there's any perking up tomorrow. if not, take another step. keep looking for signs of mites or worms, but i myself am hesitant to treat for those unless i'm fairly sure they're present.

 

[MossyoakLane]

If you find mites you can also use front line. Ivemection did not have enough punch for my mites so I use that now. All of those things work unless they are too sick to preen, they have the spread the oil around since chickens don't sweat. Not that yours are, but if they are too Ill to preen you have to wash them very carefully and get rid of everything and hope for the best.

Make sure if you do that they are completely dry afterward and warm.

Thankfully she is not that sick.

Figures I don't use frontline.....I use advantage II on our furry pets, which has different ingredients.


So our plan of attack so far is:

Treat with corrid liquid.
Use Frontline on all feathered friends. The ivermectin was way out of our price range (and it would have last us 100 years!)
Completely scrub down coop, and paint the inside white while we are there.

They did not have any products with pyrethrin in them except for equicare flysect. I was unsure of using this product near my chickens. It said it kills mites and flies.

I am actually leaning towards cocci right now. The girl at Western farms said she has sold corrid to 3 people this week....and she was't sure what others have sold. She said it seems to be going around

 

[Ali707]

How big is your coop?

Well it isn't that big but I am building challenged since I sit behind a desk all week long. I built a 4dx8wx4h. I didn't have a plan and I built it out of a picture in my head of what I thought would be easy. Since most wood is cut to 8 foot lengths and 4 feet wide generally I thought that would be easiest. I have an 8x8x8 run attached so that makes it a little difficult. I can take that off, but just a place to store the chickens while I move it is pretty concerning. It took me forever to build and I am afraid disassembling and reassemblling will take me a LONG time too. I was going to take a picture of it this morning but forgot.

Cat carriers and lots of them.. That is what I did. Lol


Ron the penedesenca look great

Ugh! I have one cat carrier that would hold maybe 3 chickens... That's a whole lotta trips back and forth 15 minutes each way....

Ya Ali I'd say borrow dog crates.

Can you take your coop down in 4 parts( each wall) and move it that way?

Do you have a garage in your new house? You could get a wooden fruit box or one of those huge boxes they have fruit in at Costco ( that can be hard to move too but they are cardboard.) And put it in the garage for a while cover it with chicken wire or netting or some such.

Or sacrifice a bathroom ( make sure it can be hosed down) and put them in there for a week while you move your coop.

I have a shop in the new house, but they are getting to be full grown now and 13 of them in anything in the house would be an "OH heck NO!" kind of thing..... I could TRY to put something temporary up in the shop but I couldn't wait to get them out of my garage when they were chicks I can't imagine now. I may have to take a day or two off of work to get this done. I am a do it on the weekends kind of girl but that may not be possible this time.

I guess we may still be using antiquated terms down here

I think it is still referred to as Round Robin or maybe my nieces both just say that b/c it's what they are used to and they know I get it.

Mossy Oak I am so sorry that you have a sick girl. Hope it clears up soon!

Ali. If you are moving I hope it is something you are excited about and I hope you get your coop moved easily. I was going to say dog crates too. You may also make a quick A Frame PVC tractor if you have a predator proof area to keep it at night.

Happy Chooks: When I read your chicken accounting out loud to my husband last night he laughed out loud. That is exactly how I was explaining it to him...the cockerels, the straight run chicks and the ones in the eggs don't count!

Turns out he is just as guilty of chicken math. I set my limit at 20 juvies/adults by the end of summer and I am at 19. When we were discussing what route to take...eggs, chicks or pullets for next spring he said "....well 24 is a good number and I think that we can allow for an additional 3" Plus I am pretty sure Curly and his Bantam girls won't count....I think I am going to get him a frizzled friend and he has a D'Anver girl who is just waiting for him to get into his new digs. (Curly, not my H)

Kim: Ozzie's crow is getting stronger and less like a croak. He actually waited for most of the girls to leave the coop before he did, he was sweet talking the juvies and he doesn't CHARGE!!!!! into things like a bull anymore... the boy is growing up and he is so beautiful. Harriet is a sweet pea. She makes such sweet little noises and will let me pet her. Like my other Dels she is really calm. I also peeked at some of your more recent pics of your new Del babies on the Del thread. Man oh Man are they amazing!

The chicks are 2 weeks old now and Beak Face is allowing more contact with them and the big girls. My red stars are #1 and #2 and they each have given a chick or Beakface the business for not knowing their place. A week ago BF wouldn't have stood for it but she did yesterday.

Well, I HATE moving, and I am not 100% excited, but I feel it is hopefully a good decision. I am trying to buy a house on this really interesting load product no one has heard about. It actually provides 100% financing. The Real Estate market is still a little bananas and the house is not my dream house, but I hope it will be a good tool for future plans. Being a single mom with no male muscle is really annoying when it comes to things like this. But I have done it TWICE in the last two years so hopefully this is the LAST time for a while. Of course the last two times I didn't have to move the chickens.

Next spring I am hoping to get some of your "Red Star" eggs.

Yes, there is a tiny bit of poop, but nothing I would think was abnormal in anyway. Vent looked healthy otherwise.

Just sent hubby down to pick up Corrid, Ivermectin, and some Pyrethrin. I like to do the organic and natural thing, but I guess sometimes I need to sacrifice that for the health of my chickies. I guess I will throw everything at it.....and hope it works.

I thought I read somewhere you are not supposed to give vitamins along with the corrid? I could have mixed that up with another treatment I read about.....so please correct me.

Oh! Wester Farms has both liquid and powder. I told my husband the liquid. Should I call him and tell him powder instead? We have a bucket/nipple watering system and I thought the liquid might be easier to distribute in it. It is a lower concentration at 9% I think, instead of the 20% powder.

I am sorry that you are having issues.

There is a BYC member that used wood ash to treat mites (external obviously), but since she isn't eating, I am not sure I would like to do a wait and see on that option.

Does she feel skinny? Is she maybe egg bound? I don't recall that when my chicken was egg bound that she was puffy, she was just sort of in a trance and didn't move.

 

[ronott1]

i'm sure either work fine, the powder is easy to dilute into their water, and the concentration of course varies with how much water you add. i have the same kind of waterer that you do.

and i would try one thing at a time, if you can be patient -- chickens seem to have very few symptoms that can *possibly* indicate a whole array of totally different problems (like, poop on the behind could be related to mites or worms, or it could just be that she's feeling lethargic & hence not as tidy as usual) -- but pouring a bunch of different chemicals in/on could cause problems itself!

ONLY based on my own experience (which is limited) and the fact that we live fairly close to each other, i'd try the corid first, and see if there's any perking up tomorrow. if not, take another step. keep looking for signs of mites or worms, but i myself am hesitant to treat for those unless i'm fairly sure they're present.

If I might suggest a plan:

1. Yes, treat them all with Corid. Corid works fast so they will be better in three days if they have cocci.
2. Clean the coop and spray the roosts, top and bottom with seven. Spray the corners and the bottom of the nest boxes and put In fresh pine flakes or straw on top of it.
3. Dust the bottom of the sick one with poultry dust.

Wait to see if the corid works--a complete 5 to 7 day course. While finishing the course, get the poo tested for worms. Still, even if worms or mites are found, wait until several days after the corid before treating with a wormer.

I do think there is a type of cocci in Sonoma County that is bad so it very well may be Cocci that is making her feel bad.

 

[lawatt]

Ugh! I have one cat carrier that would hold maybe 3 chickens... That's a whole lotta trips back and forth 15 minutes each way....

I have two cardboard cat-carriers, the kind they usually give away free at the pound, and they are GREAT as chicken-carriers, and cheap/free.

good luck with the move -- i too HATE moving (my parents had joint custody when i was a kid & we had to switch houses every two weeks, which meant almost constant packing/unpacking of things), and hope to never have to move again!

and re: wood ash, i definitely put mine in my coop as a dust-bath to help prevent mites -- although not using the woodstove during the summer, so am short on ashes at this point. but in the winter, it's a win/win for me and the chicklets!

 

[MossyoakLane]

and re: wood ash, i definitely put mine in my coop as a dust-bath to help prevent mites -- although not using the woodstove during the summer, so am short on ashes at this point. but in the winter, it's a win/win for me and the chicklets!

Yes, I have been wanting to try this, but sadly have not had a fire in quite some time. They will get ash as soon as we have a fire in the fall.

 

[Happy Chooks]

Bankers boxes are great for moving chickens. Duct tape the lids on. The handle holes give enough air.

 

[debs_flock]

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Poultry shows are "cooped", your bird has to stay the full length of the show. Like in the case of our state fair, three days. Birds can't leave until the show is over. Here that means when the building closes to the public at 10pm. Then everyone can remove their birds from their coops, put then in carrying cases and go home, commonly called "cooping out"............or "cooping in" when you first get there.

The master showmanship (or round robin) at state fair this year, I was the poultry judge this year. Here it is broken up into small or large animal, so the competitions are separate, although you can qualify for both.

I was pretty easy on the kids. I supplied all the birds that were used, I only had one kid recognize there were two seramas there. Everyone else called them OE games or Japanese

For each of the birds, I asked the kids to evaluate it for good/bad. All the birds I brought had something wrong with them that would make me not show them. One kid dinged the silkie for having five toes

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I always use pour on cattle ivermectin. It works great with both lice and mites. Since it's systemic, it will kill any parasite that sucks blood. Added bonus................I spill so much on my hands or accidently squirt it in my face, I figure I am parasite free as well

 

[MossyoakLane]

Thank you everyone for the help!

We have a local vet that will float test, and test for cocci for $25. They said they usually have results back the same day.

I think I would feel better ruling cocci and worms out (or confirming, whatever the case may be). I would hate to find that it is something else and have a hen die because I chose the wrong treatment.
It bothers me that her poops have been normal. Doesn't cocci always cause runny poos?

I would think she wasn't egg bound as she did lay on Wednesday, but she did sit in the nest yesterday with no egg. Not unusual for her as I find even on days when she doesn't lay she is a creature of habit and sits for a bit anyway. She does not seem to be straining or attempting to lay an egg.

Still cleaning out the coop and painting and dusting it, but that might have to wait until tomorrow.

Until we get results back everyone has been started on a corrid.

 

[ronott1]

Thank you everyone for the help!

We have a local vet that will float test, and test for cocci for $25. They said they usually have results back the same day.

I think I would feel better ruling cocci and worms out (or confirming, whatever the case may be). I would hate to find that it is something else and have a hen die because I chose the wrong treatment.
It bothers me that her poops have been normal. Doesn't cocci always cause runny poos?

I would think she wasn't egg bound as she did lay on Wednesday, but she did sit in the nest yesterday with no egg. Not unusual for her as I find even on days when she doesn't lay she is a creature of habit and sits for a bit anyway. She does not seem to be straining or attempting to lay an egg.

Still cleaning out the coop and painting and dusting it, but that might have to wait until tomorrow.

Until we get results back everyone has been started on a corrid.