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[ronott1]

I have come here so many time re. Della, My weird egg layer gone non egg layer and now back to weird eggs. She mostly lays them at night on the poo tray under the roosts. They aren't there when I close them in the coop at night and if there is one it is there at dawn, cool and usually cracked and unusable and compromised in one way or another. I hope you don't mind my sharing news of her.

In her history she has laid several huge eggs inc 2 incidents of an egg in an egg. Her eggs are typically large and at least partly thin shelled and since early on she rarely puts them in the nesting box. I have watched her lay them in the dirt or they are under her on the poop tray.

She stopped all together in June when she got sick with what I thought was either sour crop or internal laying or both and I pretty much decided that she was an internal layer and her days were numbered. Her personality changed too. She used to be the first to greet me and now she hangs by herself a lot.

Well like I said she is laying again. It's sort of a pain b/c I have to clean up after her before any of the others finds the yummy egg but I think the things she produces are interesting. Today it was a soft shelled egg mostly covered by a membrane with a little balloon at one end full of albumen. Anyway, the dogs and her coopmates are happy with what she produces after I get them cooked up. Her personality seems to be returning somewhat too.

That's all I just wanted to share it with people who may be a little interested

I hope this means she is not an internal layer and that she will make it to a long chicken life. She is exempted from the lay or get the ax rule because she started out so darned sweet.

There is hope since she is laying again.

It sounds like something messed up her reproductive organs. Round Worms will do that--It is important to worm pullets at 12 weeks or so.

 

[chiqita]

I'm so haapy she is getting stuff out! Sounds like she is feeling better.
Love and kisses to you both at happy news.

I have come here so many time re. Della, My weird egg layer gone non egg layer and now back to weird eggs.  She mostly lays them at night on the poo tray under the roosts.  They aren't there when I close them in the coop at night and if there is one it is there at dawn,  cool and usually cracked and unusable and compromised in one way or another.  I hope you don't mind my sharing news of her. 

In her history she has laid several huge eggs inc 2 incidents of an egg in an egg.  Her eggs are typically large and at least partly thin shelled and since early on she rarely puts them in the nesting box.  I have watched her lay them in the dirt or they are under her on the poop tray.

She stopped all together in June when she got sick with what I thought was either sour crop or internal laying or both and I pretty much decided that she was an internal layer and her days were numbered.  Her personality changed too.  She used to be the first to greet me and now she hangs by herself a lot.

Well like I said she is laying again.  It's sort of a pain b/c I have to clean up after her before any of the others finds the yummy egg but I think the things she produces are interesting.  Today it was a soft shelled egg mostly covered by a membrane  with a little balloon at one end full of albumen.  Anyway, the dogs and her coopmates are happy with what she produces after I get them cooked up.  Her personality seems to be returning somewhat too. 

That's all I just wanted to share it with people who may be a little interested   I hope this means she is not an internal layer and that she will make it to a long chicken life.  She is exempted from the lay or get the ax rule because she started out so darned sweet.

 

[tommysgirl]

There is hope since she is laying again.

It sounds like something messed up her reproductive organs. Round Worms will do that--It is important to worm pullets at 12 weeks or so.

On your urging I wormed everyone last spring but it really didn't change anything for her. Maybe it was too late since she was about a year old before I did it the first time I just think that somewhere at a hatchery used by My Pet Chicken, there was a Delaware hen who carries a wonky egg gene. I will be worming them again this fall but in the mean time I am capitalizing on the availability of winter squash and pumpkins and giving them all those.

 

[ronott1]

On your urging I wormed everyone last spring but it really didn't change anything for her. Maybe it was too late since she was about a year old before I did it the first time I just think that somewhere at a hatchery used by My Pet Chicken, there was a Delaware hen who carries a wonky egg gene. I will be worming them again this fall but in the mean time I am capitalizing on the availability of winter squash and pumpkins and giving them all those.

That is very likely.

If they have worms, The pumpkin seeds will not get rid of them. It will help them resist the worms and they are very good for them.

Send a poo sample to UCD. It will cost about $10.50.

 

[chiqita]

its boggling how many types of worms there are. And they all need a fricking different wormer.
BAD WORMS NO COOKIES FOR YOU!

 

[Flowers of Abba]

So I

its boggling how many types of worms there are.  And they all need a fricking different wormer. 
BAD WORMS NO COOKIES FOR YOU!

have always used food grade DE in runs, bedding, and poop trays and they scratch around and peck at it. I figured since its an anti parasitic that kept my flock healthy. Are there worms that don't flush with de?

 

[ronott1]

its boggling how many types of worms there are. And they all need a fricking different wormer.
BAD WORMS NO COOKIES FOR YOU!

Yes! The test and then the treatment targeted to the type of worm.

One lab went so far as to test which anti biotic worked best to kill the strain of E-Coli present in a flock Of Isbars and then recommended it for the Flock owners vet to use. This was part of a Necropsy service which is why I suggest anyone that has a chicken die send it in for the free Necropsy at UCD.

 

[chiqita]

So I
have always used food grade DE in runs, bedding, and poop trays and they scratch around and peck at it. I figured since its an anti parasitic that kept my flock healthy. Are there worms that don't flush with de?

I think so. Of course you may never see any worms, but I have become a paranoid chicken owner who has a pharmacy in her closet. Its the rest of my life that is all holistic, chickens cant tell me whats wrong and have a tendency to die, so they get drugs, lol.

 

[ronott1]

So I
have always used food grade DE in runs, bedding, and poop trays and they scratch around and peck at it. I figured since its an anti parasitic that kept my flock healthy. Are there worms that don't flush with de?

DE cannot kill things when it is wet. It works by drying bugs out so it will not kill worms inside the chicken.

It is a great source of calcium--it is like chelated calcium and easy to absorb.

 

[Flowers of Abba]

http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_earth.html

This woman and many others report tried and true internal parasitic remedy from de. It can't stay dry internally so it must work different when taken internally than when in open air in wet vs dry soil conditions? What do you think?