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Ron - I've only started doing it for breeding. Trisha and I have been talking about how to increase laying ability in barnevelders. She had been reading the call of the hen, and relaying some of the information to me. I'm by no means an expert at it. I'm still trying to notice the subtle differences.

I'm not sure it would work for a hen coming back from a molt. I think it only works for pullets until they start laying. Once they start laying, I think their pelvic bones stay wider. Kind of like a woman that gives birth. The hips just don't go back to pre-baby width.
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ug that nasty fact.. other things don't go back either :P
 
Quote: Her hubby's fam has been her since the 1800's. I got here 13 years ago ans she 12. My man is from another state. But yes it is a small county and we know people all over it. I like that. not like LA or other largely developed areas in So Cal where I grew up. I happened to get based out here, them my man did after we had our fist munchkin. I like it too. But there are some things I am not a fan of... the hot summers for one. Make gardens hard to maintain. *sigh* I think you do better out your way though. I live in a heat trap. Middletown is like here too. I miss living there. Love that town.
 
Terriers are loud however. Rufus was not a barker for months until he got happy. Then he went wild. He has a joyous bark annoyed bark a protective bark I got locked in a room bark ( that's the only quiet baek) a real dog person could probably do something about it.

I'm grateful he does not bark at night or all the time but it would b en bad if we lived on a busy street.
 
Love the "locked in a room" bark. We have all bases covered when it comes to shedding. Short white hair, medium length dark brindle hair and long golden hair! Gryeyes tag line says it all.

I hate commercials with door bells, the anti-golden routinely barks at us if the cadence of our steps is off. Only 1 will speak on command.
 
Mario has taught him to reply raw!raw! (High piched yap) to rufas!what does garden Ramsey say? Sometimes he will do it when go yells raw too...
 
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Originally Posted by Happy Chooks

Ron - I've only started doing it for breeding. Trisha and I have been talking about how to increase laying ability in barnevelders. She had been reading the call of the hen, and relaying some of the information to me. I'm by no means an expert at it. I'm still trying to notice the subtle differences.

I'm not sure it would work for a hen coming back from a molt. I think it only works for pullets until they start laying. Once they start laying, I think their pelvic bones stay wider. Kind of like a woman that gives birth. The hips just don't go back to pre-baby width.
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ug that nasty fact.. other things don't go back either :P
That is funny! Can't put it back in the can?

Kelly- The thing to remember is that a bunch of things have been learned since the Call of the Hen was written. I do think the pelvic bone width or it getting bigger will tell if the pullet is close to laying. As to the number laid per year, Trap nesting and keeping production records on each hen really is the only way to tell. We like to glamorize things written 100 years ago, but Poultry Science has advanced and many of the things written in those books are just plain wrong.

I fear that the pelvic width is being used for culling purposes and not using actual information. In other words, a short cut. You really cannot tell production until they are producing.

Take for example the different lines of Rhode Island Reds. One line lays 180 eggs per year while another line lays 130. Both lines have been bread to Standard--which books like the Call of the Hen say will increase production. Breeders like Ron Fogel have been working on the Standard and laying production for some time(using records) and his line now lays in the upper end of production for HRIRs. There are some very nice looking, very wide boned birds that lay terribly. Most narrow boned non sop hatchery versions of any breed will out lay them.
 
Golden Cuckoo Marans chicks
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The 2 lighter, mottled ones are the roosters. Another rooster and pullet are still in the incubator drying off.
Adorable! Nice ratio on pullets too!

try this Alli http://animal.discovery.com/breed-selector/dog-breeds.html and then, if you are inclined, you can try to find a breed rescue group. non shedding is tough, less annoying shedding is easier. I am a doggie diva and find that there are three types of shedder. short coated like a Boxer or a Boston Terrier...they shed but it is light so though it is fairly continuous, weekly vacuuming takes care of it, Hampster shedders like a Sheltie (yappy as can be) or a Collie who shed in blobs that are easy to pick up and continual copious shedders like labs who seasonally become...I could make two dogs with the hair that came off of you shedders... We have the first two types of shedders and I won't have the third kind unless I am retired and have a housekeeper. Poodles and Schnauzers and other hard coated terriers are pretty non shedding but terrier dig and yap...it's how they roll. Boston Terriers are an exception quite smooth coated and a very fuuny and winning personality. I would look into them first.

Broodies seem to NOT be dedicated once their options were limited so my life is simplified. Norma gave me the angry bukbukbuk when I talked to her today and puffed up but hung out the back yard all day and was dissuaded from going back to her flower pot by the upside down bowl. Godiva had other interests all day so
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Tomorrow I will post pics of my chicks. 4 weeks on Thursday for sexing input...I will buy a beer for anyone who tell me they are all pullets!
Schnauzers are yappy as can be. And they have an ear piercing, crystal shattering bark.
 
Schnauzers are yappy as can be. And they have an ear piercing, crystal shattering bark.
yep...or is that yap? Bostons are quiet other than when they sleep they they snore something fierce. They are also not diggers...they really aren't true terriers which by definition are dirt dogs. Basically every breed will have some sort of issue and you have to decide what is a deal breaker. I want a smooth collie but they shed like a lab or Golden, I also want a Doberman but am worried about their intense protective instincts, We are Boxer people but don't have one now because they has a short life span and we we too sad when we lost our last one to get another. So now we have two mutts that picked us and our Boston.
 
Well well this is how some people in the area faired the wind storm :/ Poor little town of Nice. I am grateful it wasn't that bad here... and all my chickens are still fine. We found a hurt sparrow in the pen.... I found a safe place to tuck him into. His wings were working. I just think he was exhausted.

The boys are gathering to go get my friends tractors out of the hanger that collapsed.

icky mean wind, glad its gone.

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