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A word of warning - stay away from sustainable poultry.

I agree with you. I wasn't advocating his business. I find it curious that anyone would, so I check in on him every once in a while. I only posted about it because Ron and Barbara were looking for Australorps. There are 2 local breeders on his list raising them.
??? Can you explain please. PM me if you would fee more comfortable.
Jim is an APA judge. He started a business, charging large amounts of money, annually, to "certify" your flock. He was using the APA name. Here is what is on the APA website, about it:
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Flock Certification Program

The American Poultry Association (APA) has received several inquiries in recent months concerning a flock certification program. It seems that there are individuals offering flock certification services, via the internet, and are mentioning the APA in their advertising. It should be known that the APA does not endorse any individuals advertising flock certification programs nor do we oversee or offer a flock certification program at this time.

The APA is looking into the feasibility of such a program and , if we go forward with it, we will certainly inform the public through our website and the various poultry publications. However, until that happens, please enter into any flock certification agreements at your own risk.


Dave Anderson
APA Director


Now Jim is training "coaches" to certify flocks. These coaches aren't even judges or haven't been breeding standard bred poultry for long, from what I can see.

I met Jim in person, in 2013. He seemed so nice, I thought maybe I was wrong about him. I talked to him and told him that I liked his promotion of standard bred poultry but he was charging too much. He said that he needed to cover his travel expenses. He also said he'd like to see my flock, if he was ever in the area.
I contacted him, last month and told him that I had made some progress with my Delawares. I invited him to come see them and my Dorkings, but I said that I couldn't pay him for it. He invited me to his workshop, which I declined. He asked where I lived and said he would really like to see my birds.
So, I was surprised that he was in Dixon and Woodland, a couple weeks ago, and didn't mention it. I grocery shop in Woodland, it's 30 miles from my ranch. I'm back to thinking it's all about making money for him and less about standard bred poultry. JMO
 
Been raining in SF for over an hour.
Gives new meaning to the Float in the Giants parade.
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@casportpony (or anyone else) so you have akink to the worming study that says the i wormer sucks?

And while im thinking about it, @capayvalleychick are you going to have pigs next year? I still think a learn to butcher a pig party would be awesome! I thought if we organised early we could get it going.

Also if anyone sees a pekin female in the general vacinity of bay area let me know!

How is everyone today? Im waiting for eain!
 
And while im thinking about it, @capayvalleychick are you going to have pigs next year? I still think a learn to butcher a pig party would be awesome! I thought if we organised early we could get it going.

I have friends who would totally pay to attend something like that (a bunch took a basic butchery class where they got a whole small pig or lamb to work with last year and they all really enjoyed the experience).
 
If we do it i might save my xmas and birthday presents together and get a professional grade vaccum sealer. I have a semi professional one now but the resteraunt grade ines are not cheap.

But i have been lusting over vaccum condensed fruit...
 
@casportpony (or anyone else) so you have akink to the worming study that says the i wormer sucks?

And while im thinking about it, @capayvalleychick are you going to have pigs next year? I still think a learn to butcher a pig party would be awesome! I thought if we organised early we could get it going.

Also if anyone sees a pekin female in the general vacinity of bay area let me know!

How is everyone today? Im waiting for eain!
We are having a Halloween luncheon at work today. I put lasagna together for it last night and will be cooking it her at work.

I am looking forward to eating too!
 

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